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| + | There were more page splits that I had been considering for awhile (this being one of them). I think the way things are currently it wouldn't take much effort to do that, plus there isn't too much of a reason that all of this needs to be on the same page. Does anyone have a strong opinion on this? As another idea, perhaps we could also divide the SUV weapons and the other extra units. --[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 10:51, 25 April 2009 (CDT) | ||
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| + | == Miscellaneous == | ||
*The table for Body Units has some sort of weirdness going on with it, not sure how to correct it, so I left it alone and just added Orpad D: - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 02:01, 2 July 2007 (BST) | *The table for Body Units has some sort of weirdness going on with it, not sure how to correct it, so I left it alone and just added Orpad D: - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 02:01, 2 July 2007 (BST) | ||
| + | *[[User:Tycho|Tycho]]: According to [http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up2444.jpg this image], Extra Units would boost HP regen. Interesting stuff, we should keep that in mind. | ||
| − | *[[User: | + | == Red Units == |
| + | * (This isn't a productive comment, but...) I don't like where that's going. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 13:52, 19 January 2008 (CST) | ||
| + | * Considering Red/Force seems to be out, this is as good a time as any to raise this question. What exactly do these units do? If I had to guess, I'd assume it's some sort of crazy thing where the stat bonuses increase as you equip more Red units or something. Anyway, I can't help but wonder if the Perfect Bible has some (highly suspect) information to share on this subject. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 16:41, 24 January 2008 (CST) | ||
| + | ** I've updated with a bit more info which I got from the JP wiki. I wish the ''PB'' had more to offer, but it doesn't give much more than the item name and (apparently wrong) manufacturer. All of the other table cells were left blank and the drop info just has question marks listed. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:48, 24 January 2008 (CST) | ||
| + | *** So they're just regular stat-boosting units then, nothing special? I find it kind of silly that Red/Force would basically be Hizeri/Force -10 TP. I guess it's probably save to assume that Red/Wall won't be Tenora then. Anyway, I'm still betting that these units have some sort of special effect when combined with each other and/or Red Line. Only time will tell, I suppose. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 22:48, 24 January 2008 (CST) | ||
| − | ==New unit table design== | + | == New unit table design == |
*I was going to update the page to fit with the new table format used on the weapon/line shield page. Currently, I've done the conversion for the online tables but there are a few discrepancies that I want to confirm (which I can't do at work) before submitting them. Also, I wasn't able to find any guidelines as far as what columns to use. I was going to leave off the JP name as well as the description, let me know what you think. [[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 00:14, 18 August 2007 (BST) | *I was going to update the page to fit with the new table format used on the weapon/line shield page. Currently, I've done the conversion for the online tables but there are a few discrepancies that I want to confirm (which I can't do at work) before submitting them. Also, I wasn't able to find any guidelines as far as what columns to use. I was going to leave off the JP name as well as the description, let me know what you think. [[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 00:14, 18 August 2007 (BST) | ||
**I guess it should more or less be identical to the weapon tables. We'll have to throw around some ideas and get some discussion going followed by a vote to finalize things, though. I'll see if I can throw together some example tables. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 02:54, 18 August 2007 (BST) | **I guess it should more or less be identical to the weapon tables. We'll have to throw around some ideas and get some discussion going followed by a vote to finalize things, though. I'll see if I can throw together some example tables. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 02:54, 18 August 2007 (BST) | ||
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== New extra unit: Whitill Wing == | == New extra unit: Whitill Wing == | ||
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These [http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up2638.jpg two] [http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up2639.jpg pics] show us a new extra unit called Whitill Wing. It's an S-rank unit created by Yohmei that manifests itself as a pair of glowing wings on your character's back. (I'm kind of surprised to see an old section ID referenced, however.) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 20:35, 28 August 2006 (PDT) | These [http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up2638.jpg two] [http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up2639.jpg pics] show us a new extra unit called Whitill Wing. It's an S-rank unit created by Yohmei that manifests itself as a pair of glowing wings on your character's back. (I'm kind of surprised to see an old section ID referenced, however.) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 20:35, 28 August 2006 (PDT) | ||
* I'm surprised to see Section IDs referenced too, but it actually seems like quite a nice homage to PSO, I wonder if the other IDs have Wings too... [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 08:22, 29 August 2006 (PDT) | * I'm surprised to see Section IDs referenced too, but it actually seems like quite a nice homage to PSO, I wonder if the other IDs have Wings too... [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 08:22, 29 August 2006 (PDT) | ||
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*I doubt they'll be wings, maybe another ID, but it'llbe something you can see. I'm only speculating... Tiger Tail for Oran? Devil Wings for Redria? Could be that... oh and someone should add the 3 other SUVs that have been found a while ago (I can't, I don't have the game yet :P). | *I doubt they'll be wings, maybe another ID, but it'llbe something you can see. I'm only speculating... Tiger Tail for Oran? Devil Wings for Redria? Could be that... oh and someone should add the 3 other SUVs that have been found a while ago (I can't, I don't have the game yet :P). | ||
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Does this unit even exist anymore? --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 05:45, 1 January 2007 (CST) | Does this unit even exist anymore? --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 05:45, 1 January 2007 (CST) | ||
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| + | == Tero / All Save == | ||
| + | * Just bought one on the 360 server thought it had been around for awhile just really rare, but its not on the page so maybe not. Anyone know the % of the cost save on this so far i notice 10% less PP usage on my card arts. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 04:05, 6 November 2007 (CST) | ||
| + | ** I thought we'd added it, too. I see now, that it was only recently released during the 1Up Cup. We mentioned it on the 1Up page, but not here yet. Not certain on its benefits, however. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 06:36, 6 November 2007 (CST) | ||
| + | *** Well grabbed it for only 400k so I be happy with it but i think its only 10% reduction I will keep playing with it and post it in a few days when I'm 100% sure its 10%. | ||
| + | * I've added it to that chart. Can you confirm the -100 attack and -60 accuracy for me? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:16, 6 November 2007 (CST) | ||
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| + | It seems there's some discrepancies between PSUP/PSOW and PSU-wiki[http://spoiler.sakura.ne.jp/rr/psu/index.php?DB%2F%C1%F5%C8%F7%2F%CB%C9%B6%F1%2F%A5%E6%A5%CB%A5%C3%A5%C8#Arm]/Amesani as far as arm units are concerned. Does anyone have more information on this? I guess it wouldn't be hard to test to make sure. --[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 00:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| + | * Someone was able to verify that Lumirus/Power Chrg. is 150/150 and not 200/200. I guess we'll be able to test most of these out EN side (except for Orpa / Power Charge, which should follow anyway). --[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 00:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| + | * Ryna and I just verified almost all of the 'new' values (which I'm about to change here). --[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 01:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 01:35, 14 August 2009
Contents
Split?
There were more page splits that I had been considering for awhile (this being one of them). I think the way things are currently it wouldn't take much effort to do that, plus there isn't too much of a reason that all of this needs to be on the same page. Does anyone have a strong opinion on this? As another idea, perhaps we could also divide the SUV weapons and the other extra units. --S-T-H 10:51, 25 April 2009 (CDT)
Miscellaneous
- The table for Body Units has some sort of weirdness going on with it, not sure how to correct it, so I left it alone and just added Orpad D: - Beatrixkiddo 02:01, 2 July 2007 (BST)
- Tycho: According to this image, Extra Units would boost HP regen. Interesting stuff, we should keep that in mind.
Red Units
- (This isn't a productive comment, but...) I don't like where that's going. - Miraglyth 13:52, 19 January 2008 (CST)
- Considering Red/Force seems to be out, this is as good a time as any to raise this question. What exactly do these units do? If I had to guess, I'd assume it's some sort of crazy thing where the stat bonuses increase as you equip more Red units or something. Anyway, I can't help but wonder if the Perfect Bible has some (highly suspect) information to share on this subject. --Qwerty 16:41, 24 January 2008 (CST)
- I've updated with a bit more info which I got from the JP wiki. I wish the PB had more to offer, but it doesn't give much more than the item name and (apparently wrong) manufacturer. All of the other table cells were left blank and the drop info just has question marks listed. - EspioKaos 21:48, 24 January 2008 (CST)
- So they're just regular stat-boosting units then, nothing special? I find it kind of silly that Red/Force would basically be Hizeri/Force -10 TP. I guess it's probably save to assume that Red/Wall won't be Tenora then. Anyway, I'm still betting that these units have some sort of special effect when combined with each other and/or Red Line. Only time will tell, I suppose. --Qwerty 22:48, 24 January 2008 (CST)
- I've updated with a bit more info which I got from the JP wiki. I wish the PB had more to offer, but it doesn't give much more than the item name and (apparently wrong) manufacturer. All of the other table cells were left blank and the drop info just has question marks listed. - EspioKaos 21:48, 24 January 2008 (CST)
New unit table design
- I was going to update the page to fit with the new table format used on the weapon/line shield page. Currently, I've done the conversion for the online tables but there are a few discrepancies that I want to confirm (which I can't do at work) before submitting them. Also, I wasn't able to find any guidelines as far as what columns to use. I was going to leave off the JP name as well as the description, let me know what you think. Propagandist 00:14, 18 August 2007 (BST)
- I guess it should more or less be identical to the weapon tables. We'll have to throw around some ideas and get some discussion going followed by a vote to finalize things, though. I'll see if I can throw together some example tables. EspioKaos 02:54, 18 August 2007 (BST)
- And here we go. Let's move our discussion over there to keep it with all the other standardization talk. ;) EspioKaos 03:09, 18 August 2007 (BST)
New extra unit: Whitill Wing
These two pics show us a new extra unit called Whitill Wing. It's an S-rank unit created by Yohmei that manifests itself as a pair of glowing wings on your character's back. (I'm kind of surprised to see an old section ID referenced, however.) EspioKaos 20:35, 28 August 2006 (PDT)
- I'm surprised to see Section IDs referenced too, but it actually seems like quite a nice homage to PSO, I wonder if the other IDs have Wings too... Mewn 08:22, 29 August 2006 (PDT)
- I doubt they'll be wings, maybe another ID, but it'llbe something you can see. I'm only speculating... Tiger Tail for Oran? Devil Wings for Redria? Could be that... oh and someone should add the 3 other SUVs that have been found a while ago (I can't, I don't have the game yet :P).
Offline Discrepancies
Is there a significant difference between Story Mode and Extra Mode items, or is most of the data outdated? --Seikas2 12:32, 2 December 2006 (PST)
| ガーメントオーラ | (Garment Aura) | TENORA WORKS | B | 30000 | -- | 3 | 4★ | Red flame animation | - |
Does this unit even exist anymore? --Seikas2 05:45, 1 January 2007 (CST)
Tero / All Save
- Just bought one on the 360 server thought it had been around for awhile just really rare, but its not on the page so maybe not. Anyone know the % of the cost save on this so far i notice 10% less PP usage on my card arts. -- KyTin 04:05, 6 November 2007 (CST)
- I thought we'd added it, too. I see now, that it was only recently released during the 1Up Cup. We mentioned it on the 1Up page, but not here yet. Not certain on its benefits, however. - EspioKaos 06:36, 6 November 2007 (CST)
- Well grabbed it for only 400k so I be happy with it but i think its only 10% reduction I will keep playing with it and post it in a few days when I'm 100% sure its 10%.
- I thought we'd added it, too. I see now, that it was only recently released during the 1Up Cup. We mentioned it on the 1Up page, but not here yet. Not certain on its benefits, however. - EspioKaos 06:36, 6 November 2007 (CST)
- I've added it to that chart. Can you confirm the -100 attack and -60 accuracy for me? - EspioKaos 11:16, 6 November 2007 (CST)
PP consumption
It seems there's some discrepancies between PSUP/PSOW and PSU-wiki[1]/Amesani as far as arm units are concerned. Does anyone have more information on this? I guess it wouldn't be hard to test to make sure. --S-T-H 00:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Someone was able to verify that Lumirus/Power Chrg. is 150/150 and not 200/200. I guess we'll be able to test most of these out EN side (except for Orpa / Power Charge, which should follow anyway). --S-T-H 00:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ryna and I just verified almost all of the 'new' values (which I'm about to change here). --S-T-H 01:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
