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==New Shiet==
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I changed a few things here. I changed the HTML to Wiki markup, and I altered a few minor things. In accordance with Miraglyth's suggestion, I reduced the redundancy of the "Rank" and "Rarity" fields, adding instead a "Version" field. I also changed the sythesis field. Instead of showing only non-elemental base rate, I think it is most useful if we show the range for elemental weaponry (i.e. 0 striking-100 striking in this case, both elemental [because honestly, who synths non-elemental weapons?]). I'll change the rest when I have time, or someone else can do it if he/she feels so motivated. In the mean time, comments? --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 01:42, 23 August 2007 (BST)
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* Looks great.  Of course, we may have to put some sort of info on the page saying what the synth rate numbers really mean.  Going straight in without knowing, I'd be a little confused as to why we have a range as opposed to a solid number.  ;)  [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 04:35, 23 August 2007 (BST)
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* Few other things.  I'd like to suggest changing "monster" in the drop chart to "enemy."  I guess it's just a nitpick, but in the case of items that drop from beast, CAST and newman bad guys (Jasse, Ogg, Solda, Taguba, etc.), I just can't consider them monsters, especially since they aren't infected by the SEED or anything.  XD  Second, we should probably create color templates for the tables; just something that would make inserting the cell background colors easier on folks.  If I get a chance tonight, I'll try to do that.  [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 02:18, 24 August 2007 (BST)
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** Well, I went with "monsters" for the sake of consistency; every else on the site we use monster instead of enemy (cf. [[Monsters]], [[Rare Monsters]], etc.). And regarding the color templates, I think that is probably unnecessary, to be honest. This page style is a bit on the complex side (especially with all the nested tables), so I would hope anyone creating new pages would just copypasta the code from an existing page and then change values from there. Better yet, I'll try to just make a page and/or section of the style manual that has a "blank" version of the page style in it for easy copypasta page creation. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 06:33, 24 August 2007 (BST)
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*** Enemy works! I'd always had gripes with "monster" too, heh. I just couldn't think what'd be a better alternative. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 07:20, 24 August 2007 (BST)
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*Beautiful. Would like to see PP regeneration stat too! [[User:Au+|Au+]] 15:14, 24 August 2007 (BST)
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** That can be added in the Item details field, since it is only pertinent for certain weapons. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 18:40, 24 August 2007 (BST)
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==Old Shiet==
 
"This style seems to be the general consensus?" I didn't get ''that'' impression from the discussion at your Weapon Page Sandbox--and as I pointed out, not everyone left a comment supporting one style or the other at said sandbox.
 
"This style seems to be the general consensus?" I didn't get ''that'' impression from the discussion at your Weapon Page Sandbox--and as I pointed out, not everyone left a comment supporting one style or the other at said sandbox.
  

Latest revision as of 17:40, 24 August 2007

New Shiet

I changed a few things here. I changed the HTML to Wiki markup, and I altered a few minor things. In accordance with Miraglyth's suggestion, I reduced the redundancy of the "Rank" and "Rarity" fields, adding instead a "Version" field. I also changed the sythesis field. Instead of showing only non-elemental base rate, I think it is most useful if we show the range for elemental weaponry (i.e. 0 striking-100 striking in this case, both elemental [because honestly, who synths non-elemental weapons?]). I'll change the rest when I have time, or someone else can do it if he/she feels so motivated. In the mean time, comments? --Qwerty 01:42, 23 August 2007 (BST)

  • Looks great. Of course, we may have to put some sort of info on the page saying what the synth rate numbers really mean. Going straight in without knowing, I'd be a little confused as to why we have a range as opposed to a solid number.  ;) EspioKaos 04:35, 23 August 2007 (BST)
  • Few other things. I'd like to suggest changing "monster" in the drop chart to "enemy." I guess it's just a nitpick, but in the case of items that drop from beast, CAST and newman bad guys (Jasse, Ogg, Solda, Taguba, etc.), I just can't consider them monsters, especially since they aren't infected by the SEED or anything. XD Second, we should probably create color templates for the tables; just something that would make inserting the cell background colors easier on folks. If I get a chance tonight, I'll try to do that. EspioKaos 02:18, 24 August 2007 (BST)
    • Well, I went with "monsters" for the sake of consistency; every else on the site we use monster instead of enemy (cf. Monsters, Rare Monsters, etc.). And regarding the color templates, I think that is probably unnecessary, to be honest. This page style is a bit on the complex side (especially with all the nested tables), so I would hope anyone creating new pages would just copypasta the code from an existing page and then change values from there. Better yet, I'll try to just make a page and/or section of the style manual that has a "blank" version of the page style in it for easy copypasta page creation. --Qwerty 06:33, 24 August 2007 (BST)
      • Enemy works! I'd always had gripes with "monster" too, heh. I just couldn't think what'd be a better alternative. - Miraglyth 07:20, 24 August 2007 (BST)
  • Beautiful. Would like to see PP regeneration stat too! Au+ 15:14, 24 August 2007 (BST)
    • That can be added in the Item details field, since it is only pertinent for certain weapons. --Qwerty 18:40, 24 August 2007 (BST)

Old Shiet

"This style seems to be the general consensus?" I didn't get that impression from the discussion at your Weapon Page Sandbox--and as I pointed out, not everyone left a comment supporting one style or the other at said sandbox.

At the point people began offering counterproposals, only Mewn seemed to openly favor your design over all others. Saiffy, judging from the comment left on my own Sandbox, favors mine. EpisoKaos has made his own proposal for the weapons pages as seen in the Manual of Style discussion page.

This thing should really be put to a vote like the other issues on the manual of style. F Gattaca 21:25, 13 August 2007 (BST)

  • You're right. Let me gather some things together, and I'll get a vote started. Should've done that from the beginning. Just jumping a bit too far ahead of myself. Sorry! EspioKaos 21:29, 13 August 2007 (BST)
  • /shrug At any rate, I've actually got the time now, so I'm going to ahead and create a few more weapon pages using the style which Espio, Bea, Mewn, and I have agreed upon. If after some vote people choose something else, then we can change it later. I'm tired of deliberation preventing us from having important information even listed. --Qwerty 21:33, 13 August 2007 (BST)