User talk:Qwerty/Sandbox/Weapon Page - Revision history

S-T-H at 13:34, 28 August 2008

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Qwerty: /* New Style */

2007-10-28T19:54:01Z

‎New Style

Trooper1023: /* New Style */

2007-10-28T19:41:00Z

‎New Style

EspioKaos at 03:39, 3 August 2007

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F Gattaca at 21:04, 2 August 2007

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Beatrixkiddo at 05:04, 2 August 2007

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Qwerty at 04:02, 2 August 2007

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EspioKaos at 00:39, 2 August 2007

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EspioKaos at 00:30, 2 August 2007

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Qwerty at 18:43, 1 August 2007

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 * I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 * Could you link this third version to the discussion here? Now that I've got some free time on my hands, I figured I could start working through the weapon pages and standardizing them. Thing is, I don't which standard has been voted best. [[User:Trooper1023|Trooper1023]] 14:41, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
-** This entire discussion is old and outdated. Use [[The_PSUPedia:Weapon_template|this]] page for the most up to date weapon page style. Also, see the talk page for some more recent discussion. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 14:54, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
+** This entire discussion is old and outdated. Use [[The_PSUPedia:Article_templates|this]] page for the most up to date weapon page style. Also, see the talk page for some more recent discussion. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 14:54, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

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	* I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo\|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)		* I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo\|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)
	* Could you link this third version to the discussion here? Now that I've got some free time on my hands, I figured I could start working through the weapon pages and standardizing them. Thing is, I don't which standard has been voted best. [[User:Trooper1023\|Trooper1023]] 14:41, 28 October 2007 (CDT)		* Could you link this third version to the discussion here? Now that I've got some free time on my hands, I figured I could start working through the weapon pages and standardizing them. Thing is, I don't which standard has been voted best. [[User:Trooper1023\|Trooper1023]] 14:41, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
		+	** This entire discussion is old and outdated. Use [[The_PSUPedia:Weapon_template\|this]] page for the most up to date weapon page style. Also, see the talk page for some more recent discussion. --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 14:54, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

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	Building upon the suggestions of Mewn, I made a third variation. This variation eliminates the subheadings in favor of titled tables, and fills in some blank spaces. I put the tables themselves within a table to get them to line up real nice. In theory, the Grinding Information table could be stuck on the same line as the other three tables, but I think that would look too cluttered. Alternatively, Drop Information could be moved down a line and set before the Grinding table. Furthermore, the Gallery could be aligned directly to the left of the Grinding table, but I think that would look odd. Comments? --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 02:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)		Building upon the suggestions of Mewn, I made a third variation. This variation eliminates the subheadings in favor of titled tables, and fills in some blank spaces. I put the tables themselves within a table to get them to line up real nice. In theory, the Grinding Information table could be stuck on the same line as the other three tables, but I think that would look too cluttered. Alternatively, Drop Information could be moved down a line and set before the Grinding table. Furthermore, the Gallery could be aligned directly to the left of the Grinding table, but I think that would look odd. Comments? --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 02:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)
	* I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo\|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)		* I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo\|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)
		+	* Could you link this third version to the discussion here? Now that I've got some free time on my hands, I figured I could start working through the weapon pages and standardizing them. Thing is, I don't which standard has been voted best. [[User:Trooper1023\|Trooper1023]] 14:41, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

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 **Here's [http://psupedia.info/User_talk:EspioKaos my example].  [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 01:39, 2 August 2007 (BST)
 *** The shortened cell names are fine. I didn't have any issue with it taking up two lines, but I suppose that all depends on screen resolution. Concerning the drop table, I really like it the way it currently is, with the simplicity of only three columns. For the white space between the grinding and drop tabels, I agree that it is unsightly, though keep in mind that the grind table will take up more space when filled in with values. Now, if only there were a way to make the drop table sit just to the right of the grind table without causing the grind table to seem unaligned. Let me experiment with a few more things, check back for some more variations, maybe. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 05:02, 2 August 2007 (BST)
 ****Out of all the designs based on Qwerty's proposal I prefer EpisoKaos' variant the most.<br><br>By the way, just for future reference in case opinions are tallied on what design is eventually picked as the standard, Saffy [[User_talk:F_Gattaca/Sandbox/Weapon_Page_Redesign:_Maggac_Example|left a comment about my design]] at the Maggac example page. [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 22:04, 2 August 2007 (BST)
 ===New Style===
 Building upon the suggestions of Mewn, I made a third variation. This variation eliminates the subheadings in favor of titled tables, and fills in some blank spaces. I put the tables themselves within a table to get them to line up real nice. In theory, the Grinding Information table could be stuck on the same line as the other three tables, but I think that would look too cluttered. Alternatively, Drop Information could be moved down a line and set before the Grinding table. Furthermore, the Gallery could be aligned directly to the left of the Grinding table, but I think that would look odd. Comments? --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 02:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 * I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)

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 **Here's [http://psupedia.info/User_talk:EspioKaos my example].  [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 01:39, 2 August 2007 (BST)
 *** The shortened cell names are fine. I didn't have any issue with it taking up two lines, but I suppose that all depends on screen resolution. Concerning the drop table, I really like it the way it currently is, with the simplicity of only three columns. For the white space between the grinding and drop tabels, I agree that it is unsightly, though keep in mind that the grind table will take up more space when filled in with values. Now, if only there were a way to make the drop table sit just to the right of the grind table without causing the grind table to seem unaligned. Let me experiment with a few more things, check back for some more variations, maybe. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 05:02, 2 August 2007 (BST)
 ===New Style===
 Building upon the suggestions of Mewn, I made a third variation. This variation eliminates the subheadings in favor of titled tables, and fills in some blank spaces. I put the tables themselves within a table to get them to line up real nice. In theory, the Grinding Information table could be stuck on the same line as the other three tables, but I think that would look too cluttered. Alternatively, Drop Information could be moved down a line and set before the Grinding table. Furthermore, the Gallery could be aligned directly to the left of the Grinding table, but I think that would look odd. Comments? --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 02:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 * I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)

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		+	* Don't center the gallery pics, it looks funny. :/ --[[User:Beatrixkiddo\|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:04, 2 August 2007 (BST)
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	* I think the board ingredients should be vertical, looks a little confusing as it is. But I dunno if that'd look much better.		* I think the board ingredients should be vertical, looks a little confusing as it is. But I dunno if that'd look much better.

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 ***********I really like Gattaca's Yasminakov section redesign as well as Qwerty's número cuatro.  My main worry with Qwerty's fourth example, however, is that certain tables (the drop table, specifically) could get pretty big compared to the others and would just look out-of-place to me.  I kind of have that issue with the size of the pricing table next to the grinding table.  But the way the stats and drop tables line up looks ace.  Gattaca's example solves this possible problem, though, by each table being in its own section, so the height of one table won't make an adjacent table look off.  Now, for a little personal preference, in Gattaca's ingredients section, I think it would look better if the quantity of each item were displayed like this:  Im-photon x10 as opposed to 10 Im-photons.  That's just me, though.  ;)  [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:31, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 ************I agree, it would look better as "item x#" rather than "# items" since it avoids plural confusion. I'll edit my design to reflect that. [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 16:58, 1 August 2007 (BST)
+************ I moved the pricing table up in line with the other tables that contain gray-ish cells, I think that looks better. Now, the only table on this format that would ever vary in size would be the drops table (the grinding table will grow horizontally as values are filled in, but that is of no concern). Now, keep in mind that almost all items do not have more than 2 or 3 drop locations, even S-Ranks. Halarod is the only exception that comes to mind, which drops on practically every Neudaiz boss and from Jarbas. Consequently, I don't see this being a problem at all on the vast majority of weapon pages. However, if it is a concern to some, the table could easily be align-right'd on the same line as the grinding table, or placed on the line below. I may go ahead and do slight variations each way to see how that looks. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 19:43, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 ===New Style===
 Building upon the suggestions of Mewn, I made a third variation. This variation eliminates the subheadings in favor of titled tables, and fills in some blank spaces. I put the tables themselves within a table to get them to line up real nice. In theory, the Grinding Information table could be stuck on the same line as the other three tables, but I think that would look too cluttered. Alternatively, Drop Information could be moved down a line and set before the Grinding table. Furthermore, the Gallery could be aligned directly to the left of the Grinding table, but I think that would look odd. Comments? --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 02:44, 1 August 2007 (BST)
 * I like the third's board and drop info, with the first's item stats and item description layout. :S --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 04:21, 1 August 2007 (BST)