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EspioKaos: /* Now that I've got my ''Perfect Bible''... */

2008-01-03T15:00:32Z

‎Now that I've got my ''Perfect Bible''...

EspioKaos at 18:29, 2 January 2008

2008-01-02T18:29:55Z

EspioKaos: /* Enemy drops by tier, new information */

2007-12-27T14:44:54Z

‎Enemy drops by tier, new information

Mewn: /* Enemy drops by tier, new information */

2007-12-27T14:39:32Z

‎Enemy drops by tier, new information

EspioKaos at 14:16, 27 December 2007

2007-12-27T14:16:35Z

EspioKaos at 22:40, 24 December 2007

2007-12-24T22:40:40Z

Au+: /* Mission drop table template */

2007-12-07T20:42:41Z

‎Mission drop table template

EspioKaos: /* Mission drop table template */

2007-12-07T17:50:02Z

‎Mission drop table template

Mewn: /* Mission drop table template */

2007-12-07T17:48:14Z

‎Mission drop table template

Au+: /* Mission drop table template */

2007-12-07T17:39:08Z

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 == Now that I've got my ''Perfect Bible''... ==
 I got my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' a little earlier today, so I've started working on filling in the blanks in our drop templates.  I'd like to point out a few things concerning certain drops.  First, it looks like in certain cases, LV100+ is divided up into tiers of LV100-125 and LV125-149.  The only enemy I've seen with such an arrangement is Armed Servant (Basta), but I haven't made it through the full list yet, so there might be more.  Second, the book says that SEED-Magashi has no drops from LV1-99; at LV100+, he drops [B] [[Agito Repca]] and has a special drop of [[Agito Edge]].  Third, it's now confirmed as Bafal Bragga.  It's a Kamatoze/Carriguine/Gainozeros clone thinger.  I thought it might be a SEED-Form, but by the picture, it looks almost like it might be a Moatoob native.  (Besides, that's the only planet that doesn't have one of this type of enemy.)  It's a fire-elemental creature that has torches on its arms instead of blades like the others.  It's riding on this creepy-looking bull thing.  (Personally, I'm very pleased with this enemy's design.)  Fourth... well, I can't think of anything else right now. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:29, 2 January 2008 (CST)
 == Enemy drops by tier, new information ==

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		+	== Now that I've got my ''Perfect Bible''... ==
		+	I got my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' a little earlier today, so I've started working on filling in the blanks in our drop templates. I'd like to point out a few things concerning certain drops. First, it looks like in certain cases, LV100+ is divided up into tiers of LV100-125 and LV125-149. The only enemy I've seen with such an arrangement is Armed Servant (Basta), but I haven't made it through the full list yet, so there might be more. Second, the book says that SEED-Magashi has no drops from LV1-99; at LV100+, he drops [B] [[Agito Repca]] and has a special drop of [[Agito Edge]]. Third, it's now confirmed as Bafal Bragga. It's a Kamatoze/Carriguine/Gainozeros clone thinger. I thought it might be a SEED-Form, but by the picture, it looks almost like it might be a Moatoob native. (Besides, that's the only planet that doesn't have one of this type of enemy.) It's a fire-elemental creature that has torches on its arms instead of blades like the others. It's riding on this creepy-looking bull thing. (Personally, I'm very pleased with this enemy's design.) Fourth... well, I can't think of anything else right now. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 12:29, 2 January 2008 (CST)
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	== Enemy drops by tier, new information ==		== Enemy drops by tier, new information ==
	* I don't have my copy of the ''AotI Perfect Bible'' yet, but a website I frequent posted a little snippet of information from it. This included the Bil De Melan drop templates I just created. Anyway, the new drop tables in the book seem to follow the same pattern we have (though LV80-99 is lumped together as one, just as they were in the original ''PB''), but when it gets to LV100, it says that these drops range from LV100-149. As I see it, that could mean two things. One, enemies will never be higher in level than LV149, or two, LV150+ introduces a new drop tier. I'm thinking more toward the latter, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Also, I should have my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' next week or so. Once I get it, expect drop tables to be updated accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 08:16, 27 December 2007 (CST)		* I don't have my copy of the ''AotI Perfect Bible'' yet, but a website I frequent posted a little snippet of information from it. This included the Bil De Melan drop templates I just created. Anyway, the new drop tables in the book seem to follow the same pattern we have (though LV80-99 is lumped together as one, just as they were in the original ''PB''), but when it gets to LV100, it says that these drops range from LV100-149. As I see it, that could mean two things. One, enemies will never be higher in level than LV149, or two, LV150+ introduces a new drop tier. I'm thinking more toward the latter, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Also, I should have my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' next week or so. Once I get it, expect drop tables to be updated accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 08:16, 27 December 2007 (CST)

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 ** '''Moatoob RELICS''' (モトゥブレリクス)
 * These (and the PSO areas) are highlighted in red, so I assume they are fields for which free missions have not yet been released. I also noted '''Dark Plant''' (暗黒プラント) - is this the AMF HQ? Seems to fit, kinda... Additionally, there's '''Dark RELICS''' (暗黒レリクス) - this may well be the specific area [[Nest of Darkness]] takes place in, meaning that the Ryucross area name may have to be changed. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 08:39, 27 December 2007 (CST)
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 == Enemy drops by tier, new information ==
 * I don't have my copy of the ''AotI Perfect Bible'' yet, but a website I frequent posted a little snippet of information from it.  This included the Bil De Melan drop templates I just created.  Anyway, the new drop tables in the book seem to follow the same pattern we have (though LV80-99 is lumped together as one, just as they were in the original ''PB''), but when it gets to LV100, it says that these drops range from LV100-149.  As I see it, that could mean two things.  One, enemies will never be higher in level than LV149, or two, LV150+ introduces a new drop tier.  I'm thinking more toward the latter, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.  Also, I should have my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' next week or so.  Once I get it, expect drop tables to be updated accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 08:16, 27 December 2007 (CST)
 == Most templates created ==

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		+	== Enemy drops by tier, new information ==
		+	* I don't have my copy of the ''AotI Perfect Bible'' yet, but a website I frequent posted a little snippet of information from it. This included the Bil De Melan drop templates I just created. Anyway, the new drop tables in the book seem to follow the same pattern we have (though LV80-99 is lumped together as one, just as they were in the original ''PB''), but when it gets to LV100, it says that these drops range from LV100-149. As I see it, that could mean two things. One, enemies will never be higher in level than LV149, or two, LV150+ introduces a new drop tier. I'm thinking more toward the latter, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Also, I should have my copy of the ''Perfect Bible'' next week or so. Once I get it, expect drop tables to be updated accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 08:16, 27 December 2007 (CST)
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	== Most templates created ==		== Most templates created ==
	* Alright, I've made templates for pretty much all of the released enemies. SEED-Magashi and Fulyen Curtz are the only ones (I think) I haven't made yet. Pardon the mass of "unknowns," but I figured it'd be best to get templates for all levels created, that way we can populate our drop tables with the appropriate templates as missions are released and then edit the templates when we find new drop info so we won't have to go back into each individual mission article to add the template to the table. Besides, I made them all minor edits so they can be easily sorted out of the recent changes page. Also, I was going to use the original ''Perfect Bible'' to fill in drop info since it has pretty much everything from LV1-99 on most enemies, but then I started to notice incorrect data in the book compared to what we've already collected. Drop data must've changed between when it was published and now, so I'm going to wait until I get my new ''Perfect Bible'' (should be within a few weeks) and hope that it has up-to-date tables with all of the new enemies included. Honestly, I don't see why it wouldn't. Anyway, I'll begin adding templates to mission drop tables soon. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 16:40, 24 December 2007 (CST)		* Alright, I've made templates for pretty much all of the released enemies. SEED-Magashi and Fulyen Curtz are the only ones (I think) I haven't made yet. Pardon the mass of "unknowns," but I figured it'd be best to get templates for all levels created, that way we can populate our drop tables with the appropriate templates as missions are released and then edit the templates when we find new drop info so we won't have to go back into each individual mission article to add the template to the table. Besides, I made them all minor edits so they can be easily sorted out of the recent changes page. Also, I was going to use the original ''Perfect Bible'' to fill in drop info since it has pretty much everything from LV1-99 on most enemies, but then I started to notice incorrect data in the book compared to what we've already collected. Drop data must've changed between when it was published and now, so I'm going to wait until I get my new ''Perfect Bible'' (should be within a few weeks) and hope that it has up-to-date tables with all of the new enemies included. Honestly, I don't see why it wouldn't. Anyway, I'll begin adding templates to mission drop tables soon. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 16:40, 24 December 2007 (CST)

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		+	== Most templates created ==
		+	* Alright, I've made templates for pretty much all of the released enemies. SEED-Magashi and Fulyen Curtz are the only ones (I think) I haven't made yet. Pardon the mass of "unknowns," but I figured it'd be best to get templates for all levels created, that way we can populate our drop tables with the appropriate templates as missions are released and then edit the templates when we find new drop info so we won't have to go back into each individual mission article to add the template to the table. Besides, I made them all minor edits so they can be easily sorted out of the recent changes page. Also, I was going to use the original ''Perfect Bible'' to fill in drop info since it has pretty much everything from LV1-99 on most enemies, but then I started to notice incorrect data in the book compared to what we've already collected. Drop data must've changed between when it was published and now, so I'm going to wait until I get my new ''Perfect Bible'' (should be within a few weeks) and hope that it has up-to-date tables with all of the new enemies included. Honestly, I don't see why it wouldn't. Anyway, I'll begin adding templates to mission drop tables soon. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 16:40, 24 December 2007 (CST)
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	== Enemy names ==		== Enemy names ==
	* Great work on this, Mewn! I noticed that you've got names for some enemies that haven't even appeared in the Japanese version. Fruits of some data mining, perhaps? ;) Mainly just curious if these are official names so I can make some updates elsewhere. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 12:20, 1 December 2007 (CST)		* Great work on this, Mewn! I noticed that you've got names for some enemies that haven't even appeared in the Japanese version. Fruits of some data mining, perhaps? ;) Mainly just curious if these are official names so I can make some updates elsewhere. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 12:20, 1 December 2007 (CST)

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 ** The template source looks scary for sure ;)  In any case I mostly did this to learn some new template tricks; I'm not entirely sure if this single-drop-tier thing works for all missions, pretty sure it does but maybe I'm overlooking stuff. If this is useful, great, but if it isn't, the knowledge I've gained will be; I've learned how to do optional template arguments now. But I think this may make a few drop tables a bit easier. [[User:Au+|Au+]] 11:39, 7 December 2007 (CST)
 *** The optional field thing is something I'm interested in learning to do, actually.  I could use it for the mission infoboxes to get rid of fields that aren't needed, for example, the item exchange missions don't need an enemy element section.  Could you point me in the direction of something showing how to do this? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:50, 7 December 2007 (CST)
 ** I'm not sure, I'm very comfortable with the system we have now, and switching over to the new system may prove to be a bigger headache than continuing to use this system, which kinda defeats the object. However, since Espio is largely responsible for the mission templates I'll leave any decision to him. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 11:48, 7 December 2007 (CST)

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 Thoughts? -Au+
 * I was wondering how that was going to turn out.  To be honest, the mass of brackets all over the place frightened me!  XD  It looks nice, but I imagine it'd take me a while to switch over to using this, especially considering how comfortable I've become in using the table layout we already have. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 09:09, 7 December 2007 (CST)
-** The template source looks scary for sure ;)  In any case I mostly did this to learn some new template tricks; I'm not entirely sure if this single-drop-tier thing works for all missions, pretty sure it does but maybe I'm overlooking stuff. If this is useful, great, but if it isn't, the knowledge I've gained will be; I've learned how to do optional template arguments now. But I think this may make a few drop tables a bit easier. [[User:Au+|Au+]] 11:39, 7 December 2007 (CST)
+** The template source looks scary for sure ;)  In any case I mostly did this to learn some new template tricks; I'm not entirely sure if this single-drop-tier thing works for all missions, pretty sure it does but maybe I'm overlooking stuff. If this is useful, great, but if it isn't, the knowledge I've gained will be; I've learned how to do optional template arguments now. But I think this may make a few drop tables a bit easier. [[User:Au+|Au+]] 11:39, 7 December 2007 (CST