Talk:Weapons - Revision history

Mewn: /* Weapon Pages */

2008-01-23T14:30:17Z

‎Weapon Pages

Amaury: /* Weapon Pages */

2008-01-23T06:43:09Z

‎Weapon Pages

Qwerty: /* Weapon Pages */

2008-01-23T06:19:13Z

‎Weapon Pages

Amaury: /* Weapon Pages */

2008-01-23T06:03:00Z

‎Weapon Pages

Amaury at 06:02, 23 January 2008

2008-01-23T06:02:26Z

Miraglyth at 10:43, 1 December 2007

2007-12-01T10:43:30Z

EspioKaos: /* Madoog and Shadoog Names? */

2007-11-23T02:52:40Z

‎Madoog and Shadoog Names?

Mewn: /* Madoog and Shadoog Names? */

2007-11-23T00:15:17Z

‎Madoog and Shadoog Names?

Mewn: /* Madoog and Shadoog Names? */

2007-11-22T19:49:51Z

‎Madoog and Shadoog Names?

Miraglyth: Ah, missed this. Seems a suitable solution.

2007-11-22T19:23:00Z

Ah, missed this. Seems a suitable solution.

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	* We know. It's on the list of things to do when we get time. --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 00:19, 23 January 2008 (CST)		* We know. It's on the list of things to do when we get time. --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 00:19, 23 January 2008 (CST)
		+	* I've done a number of weapon pages, but I'm the one doing most of the work and I don't have time right now. University exams take priority over anything to do with PSU. Other people have done a few articles but if anyone fancies doing entire categories of weapons that'd be a massive help for me. PS: [[Weapon Article List]] - [[User:Mewn\|Mewn]] 08:30, 23 January 2008 (CST)

	== Madoog and Shadoog Names? ==		== Madoog and Shadoog Names? ==

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 *Style that needs to be re-written <br>into the new style: http://psupedia.info/Handgun
-That was just example; there are a lot of weapon pages that need to be re-written into the new style.
+That was just an example; there are a lot of weapon pages that need to be re-written into the new style.
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		+	* We know. It's on the list of things to do when we get time. --[[User:Qwerty\|Qwerty]] 00:19, 23 January 2008 (CST)

	== Madoog and Shadoog Names? ==		== Madoog and Shadoog Names? ==

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 *Style that needs to be re-written <br>into the new style: http://psupedia.info/Handgun
-That was just example; there are a lot of pages that need to be re-written into the new style.
+That was just example; there are a lot of weapon pages that need to be re-written into the new style.
 == Madoog and Shadoog Names? ==

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		+	Lots of them need to be re-written to fit the new style.
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		+	*New style: http://psupedia.info/Muzzlefever
		+	*Style that needs to be re-written <br>into the new style: http://psupedia.info/Handgun
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		+	That was just example; there are a lot of pages that need to be re-written into the new style.
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 * The articles have now been renamed. Some templates may have to be changed, but since a) I'm not good at template code and b) it makes no difference to me which term is used for the template, I'm not going to bother with it. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 18:15, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 ** I took care of the template names for you. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 20:52, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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 * Oughta work out fine. Agreed with this. -- [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 13:23, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 * Seems to be a general consensus on this, so very well. I will rename the articles and set up redirects at midnight GMT (that's in about 4 hours from the time of this post), unless anyone raises objections. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 13:49, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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 ****** Well I'm glad to see [[Grenades]] finally got fixed to be consistent with the license missions, but... license missions aren't a complete list, thus a list using those as the basis can't be considered "consistent" no matter how the situation is painted. To be honest, the only serious disagreement people had with the likes of "single-handed blade", "long staff" and "throwing blade" was that they were lengthy. On the flip-side, "R-Mag" is shorter than "Shadoog" and is actually used in the game, whereas the latter is only used by the people that also used "Ultimate Photon Arts". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 19:48, 21 November 2007 (CST)
 ****** Where the weapon type was missing in the License mission, I used the Japanese katakana term which is itself consistent with the terms used in the License mission. Madoog and Shadoog are used in the game - the Japanese game, and the official site. Given the general confusion on the US side, compared to the relative simplicity of the JP version (two terms are used - 'Madoog' and 'Shadoog' and their kanji equivalents, that's it). And the disagreement with the length of 'throwing blade' is irrelevant, this is an argument over consistency - you cannot use a generic term for one weapon and the descriptive term for another. The names we have now come from the katakana, if you wish to use a term translated from kanji (which, yes, includes R-Mag and Ranged Combat Support Machine) they will ALL have to come from kanji. Your choice, but as things stand they are Madoog and Shadoog unless voted otherwise, and if any other was voted in all the other names would have to be changed to reflect that. Also, lol, what do Ultimate Photon Arts have to do with this? Madoog and Shadoog have official grounding on both sides, completely different kettle of fish. I know you have a rather sad obsession with that term, but take it elsewhere, seriously. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 03:00, 22 November 2007 (CST)
-******* Stripping that down to what matters - "Madoog and Shadoog are used in the game - the Japanese game" -- Irrelevant, as is all JP stuff. This is the US version of PSU. "and the official site" -- the same official site that has made numerous errors and mis-namings, particularly recently in the same posts that use Madoog/Shadoog. "they are Madoog and Shadoog unless voted otherwise" -- [http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=56974 hi there]. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 13:17, 22 November 2007 (CST)
+******* Stripping that down to what matters - "Madoog and Shadoog are used in the game - the Japanese game" -- Irrelevant, as is all JP stuff. This is the English version of PSU. "and the official site" -- the same official site that has made numerous errors (undeniable) and mis-namings, particularly recently in the same posts that use Madoog/Shadoog. "they are Madoog and Shadoog unless voted otherwise" -- [http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=56974 hi there]. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 13:17, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 **** On a side note, I've just been told by a 360 player that the shop search categories refer to them as 'TCSM' and 'RCSM'. Seems Sega don't even know what to call them. If people are really against calling them Madoogs and Shadoogs there will have to be a vote. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:28, 21 November 2007 (CST)
 * If we want to go for consistency, let's just use the in-game player shop search terminology.  Cards are cards, grenades are grenades, madoogs are TCSMs and shadoogs are RCSMs.  To be honest, I'm getting to the point of "don't give a damn anymore" on this. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:40, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 * As a compromise, I can agree to TCSM and RCSM as the article names on the grounds of consistency. This argument won't go anywhere, because people will just claim their chosen name is 'more' official than others, when in fact they all have official ground (yes, Madoog and Shadoog are official names no matter how much people claim they aren't, unless they can factually prove Sega deliberately and intentionally used the fan translations of the Japanese terms on their site just for familiarity, which they can't). We can just set up redirects and state their alternative names in the article, since the community itself seems fiercely divided over what to call them. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 12:43, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 * I'm with Mewn. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 12:50, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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