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S-T-H: /* Clear box research */

2009-02-16T12:14:54Z

‎Clear box research

S-T-H: /* Clear box research */

2008-11-29T19:22:04Z

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EspioKaos: /* Clear box research */

2008-11-11T05:51:13Z

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S-T-H: /* Clear box research */

2008-11-11T04:59:47Z

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S-T-H: /* Clear box research */

2008-11-10T16:39:39Z

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2008-11-10T15:37:41Z

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S-T-H: Clear box research

2008-11-10T14:36:05Z

Clear box research

S-T-H: New page: These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant. * the rare map for C-X on Holy Grounds is wrong. i got the rit...

2008-06-17T07:29:27Z

New page: These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant. * the rare map for C-X on Holy Grounds is wrong. i got the rit...

New page

These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant.

* the rare map for C-X on Holy Grounds is wrong. i got the rite amount of monsters twice but no luck or is there sumthing else i need to look for.--[[User:Wild Goose|Wild Goose]] 00:27, 2 April 2007 (BST)

[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 02:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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 | x || x || x || [B] [[Laser Cannon]] || [B] [[Maser Cannon]]
 |-
-! rowspan="3" | {{Line shield icon}}
+! rowspan="2" | {{Line shield icon}}
-| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]]
+| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]]
 |-
-| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]]
+| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]]
 |}
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 ! LV10-19 !! LV20-29 !! LV30-39 !! LV40-49 !! LV50-59 !! LV60-69 !! LV70-79 !! LV80-99 !! LV100-124
 |-
-| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Sta-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Te-senba]] || ? || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]] || ?
+| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Sta-senba]] || [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Te-senba]] || ? || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]] || [B] [[Cati-senba]]
 |-
-| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || [B] [[Reiha-senba]] || [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Hoza-senba]] || ? || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]] || ?
+| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || [B] [[Reiha-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Hoza-senba]] || ? || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]] || [B] [[Yamata-senba]]
 |}
 Assumption made on the LV50 tier, of course.  That one is easy enough since there are only two Yohmei line shields that follow the previous two.  But once you move up to 7★, you run into the problem of having four to choose from.  And that suddenly makes the [B] Sori-senba reported on the JP wiki for an S drop kind of strange since it's an 8★ item which would (and does) match up with the next tier up. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 10 November 2008 (CST)
 * I'm still unsure on this and [[Talk:Fight for Food]], however they would be comparable (pairs of appropriately leveled line shields with an additional tier of one higher).  I think I'll do some runs and see what comes up.  I'm somewhat doubtful that a mission would have three sets of line shield drops for just the clear boxes.  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 13:22, 29 November 2008 (CST)

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 | [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]]
 |-
-| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ?
+| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]]
 |-
-| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Sori-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]]
+| ? || ? || ? || [B] [[Sori-senba]] || ?
 |}
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 |}
 Assumption made on the LV50 tier, of course.  That one is easy enough since there are only two Yohmei line shields that follow the previous two.  But once you move up to 7★, you run into the problem of having four to choose from.  And that suddenly makes the [B] Sori-senba reported on the JP wiki for an S drop kind of strange since it's an 8★ item which would (and does) match up with the next tier up. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 10 November 2008 (CST)

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	** I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)		** I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)
	** I noticed something interesting about [[Cost of Research]]. I'm not sure what it is I want to suggest here, but it should be easy to catch similarities when comparing these line shields to that set of box drops. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 22:59, 10 November 2008 (CST)		** I noticed something interesting about [[Cost of Research]]. I'm not sure what it is I want to suggest here, but it should be easy to catch similarities when comparing these line shields to that set of box drops. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 22:59, 10 November 2008 (CST)
		+	Ooh, nice find! So, we've got something like this (based on the boss' level in cases when it crosses into a second tier from the mission's original base level):
		+	{\| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%"
		+	! LV10-19 !! LV20-29 !! LV30-39 !! LV40-49 !! LV50-59 !! LV60-69 !! LV70-79 !! LV80-99 !! LV100-124
		+	\|-
		+	\| [B] [[Hel-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Sta-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Ageha-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Assino-senba]] \|\| {{JP item}} \| [B] [[Te-senba]] \|\| ? \|\| [B] [[Har-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Michi-senba]] \|\| ?
		+	\|-
		+	\| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Reiha-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Me-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Gi-senba]] \|\| {{JP item}} \| [B] [[Hoza-senba]] \|\| ? \|\| [B] [[Nafri-senba]] \|\| [B] [[Sori-senba]] \|\| ?
		+	\|}
		+	Assumption made on the LV50 tier, of course. That one is easy enough since there are only two Yohmei line shields that follow the previous two. But once you move up to 7★, you run into the problem of having four to choose from. And that suddenly makes the [B] Sori-senba reported on the JP wiki for an S drop kind of strange since it's an 8★ item which would (and does) match up with the next tier up. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 10 November 2008 (CST)

← Older revision		Revision as of 04:59, 11 November 2008
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	* I just filled in the S2 drops from the JP wiki's chart. I think this may be another mission where weapon types change with difficulty, as no knuckles are reported on either S or S2, seemingly having been replaced by laser cannons. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (CST)		* I just filled in the S2 drops from the JP wiki's chart. I think this may be another mission where weapon types change with difficulty, as no knuckles are reported on either S or S2, seemingly having been replaced by laser cannons. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (CST)
	** I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)		** I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)
		+	** I noticed something interesting about [[Cost of Research]]. I'm not sure what it is I want to suggest here, but it should be easy to catch similarities when comparing these line shields to that set of box drops. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 22:59, 10 November 2008 (CST)

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	Huh...no S2s listed. Thought this was pretty popular. A number of these line shield boards seem to also be Ageeta drops. Sori-senba seems out of place as far as rarity goes. Toothball says he thinks he got a Maser Cannon on S2, which would appear to fit. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 08:36, 10 November 2008 (CST)		Huh...no S2s listed. Thought this was pretty popular. A number of these line shield boards seem to also be Ageeta drops. Sori-senba seems out of place as far as rarity goes. Toothball says he thinks he got a Maser Cannon on S2, which would appear to fit. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 08:36, 10 November 2008 (CST)
	* I just filled in the S2 drops from the JP wiki's chart. I think this may be another mission where weapon types change with difficulty, as no knuckles are reported on either S or S2, seemingly having been replaced by laser cannons. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (CST)		* I just filled in the S2 drops from the JP wiki's chart. I think this may be another mission where weapon types change with difficulty, as no knuckles are reported on either S or S2, seemingly having been replaced by laser cannons. - [[User:EspioKaos\|EspioKaos]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (CST)
		+	** I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. [[User:S-T-H\|S-T-H]] 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)

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 |-
 ! rowspan="6" | Boa-<br/>rds !! {{Sword icon}}
-| {{JP item}} | [B] [[Gigush]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Claymore]] || [B] [[Calibur]] || [B] [[Hanzo]] ||
+| [B] [[Gigush]] || [B] [[Claymore]] || [B] [[Calibur]] || [B] [[Hanzo]] || [B] [[Jogiri]]
 |-
 ! {{Knuckles icon}}
-| [B] [[Fists]] || [B] [[Wire Gloves]] || [B] [[Rivet Gloves]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? ||
+| [B] [[Fists]] || [B] [[Wire Gloves]] || [B] [[Rivet Gloves]] || x || x
 |-
 ! {{Laser cannon icon}}
-| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Laser Cannon]] ||
+| x || x || x || [B] [[Laser Cannon]] || [B] [[Maser Cannon]]
 |-
 ! rowspan="3" | {{Line shield icon}}
-| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Har-senba]] ||
+| [B] [[Hel-senba]] || [B] [[Ageha-senba]] || [B] [[Assino-senba]] || [B] [[Har-senba]] || [B] [[Michi-senba]]
 |-
-| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] ||
+| [B] [[Yonoi-senba]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Me-senba]] || [B] [[Gi-senba]] || [B] [[Nafri-senba]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ?
 |-
-| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Sori-senba]] ||
+| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Sori-senba]] || [B] [[Sori-senba]]
 |}
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 Huh...no S2s listed.  Thought this was pretty popular.  A number of these line shield boards seem to also be Ageeta drops.  Sori-senba seems out of place as far as rarity goes.  Toothball says he thinks he got a Maser Cannon on S2, which would appear to fit.  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 08:36, 10 November 2008 (CST)

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-These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart.  They may or may not still be relevant.
+== Clear box research ==
-* the rare map for C-X on Holy Grounds is wrong. i got the rite amount of monsters twice but no luck or is there sumthing else i need to look for.--[[User:Wild Goose|Wild Goose]] 00:27, 2 April 2007 (BST)
+[[Talk:Bladed Legacy]] for reference.
+Huh...no S2s listed.  Thought this was pretty popular.  A number of these line shield boards seem to also be Ageeta drops.  Sori-senba seems out of place as far as rarity goes.  Toothball says he thinks he got a Maser Cannon on S2, which would appear to fit.  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 08:36, 10 November 2008 (CST)