Talk:GH 434 - Revision history

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-20T18:24:18Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Zoamel Gustav: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */ an opinion.

2008-06-18T11:05:25Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot": an opinion.

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T01:58:34Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Zoamel Gustav: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T01:55:38Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T01:38:06Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T01:34:48Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Zoamel Gustav: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */ levels & localization

2008-06-18T01:29:51Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot": levels & localization

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T00:51:00Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T00:45:50Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

Amaury: /* GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot" */

2008-06-18T00:44:16Z

‎GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"

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 *My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. <br>Also, ([[Sakura Warpath]]) is most likely at [[Saguraki C.D.]] - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 **First, read what I said. "Maggie" is not a low level. "Maggie" is too high level to use those two rifles. They would not have shown. Some characters stop using some weapons at some character levels. Second, localization means translation. The name "([[Sakura Warpath]])" can not be confirmed and does not need to be yet. There are no question marks on the list of [[Missions]]. They are temporarily named. Putting question marks there would be confusing. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:55, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
-*So that's why stuff that's not been released in the U.S. is in parenthesis. - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 20:58, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
+*So that's why stuff that's not been released in the U.S. is in parentheses. - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 20:58, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 **Anyway, I'm not contributing this yet because I haven't had time to test it, but here is what I believe the rifle equips are:

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	**First, read what I said. "Maggie" is not a low level. "Maggie" is too high level to use those two rifles. They would not have shown. Some characters stop using some weapons at some character levels. Second, localization means translation. The name "([[Sakura Warpath]])" can not be confirmed and does not need to be yet. There are no question marks on the list of [[Missions]]. They are temporarily named. Putting question marks there would be confusing. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:55, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		**First, read what I said. "Maggie" is not a low level. "Maggie" is too high level to use those two rifles. They would not have shown. Some characters stop using some weapons at some character levels. Second, localization means translation. The name "([[Sakura Warpath]])" can not be confirmed and does not need to be yet. There are no question marks on the list of [[Missions]]. They are temporarily named. Putting question marks there would be confusing. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:55, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
	*So that's why stuff that's not been released in the U.S. is in parenthesis. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:58, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		*So that's why stuff that's not been released in the U.S. is in parenthesis. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:58, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
		+	**Anyway, I'm not contributing this yet because I haven't had time to test it, but here is what I believe the rifle equips are:
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
		+	\|-
		+	! Name !! Linked !! Used during
		+	\|-
		+	\| [[Saiyuhoh]]
		+	\| [[Rising Shot]] \|\| Levels 1 to ?
		+	\|-
		+	\| [[Burzaihoh]]
		+	\| [[Plasma Shot]] \|\| Levels 25 to 49
		+	\|-
		+	\| [[Falgohoh]]
		+	\| [[Burning Shot]] \|\| Levels ?
		+	\|-
		+	\| [[Blackbull]]
		+	\| [[Mayalee Shot]] \|\| Levels 50+
		+	\|-
		+	\| [[Killer Elite]]
		+	\| [[Killer Shot]] \|\| Levels 50+
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+
		+	Last time I checked: LV10 used Saiyuhoh only. LV25 gained Burzaihoh. Around LV52, still used Saiyuhoh, lost the Burzaihoh and gained Blackbull & Killer Elite. At some point, I don't know when, the Saiyuhoh is replaced with the Falgohoh. You can use this to form the basis for your tests. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 06:05, 18 June 2008 (CDT)

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 ==GH 434's Saiyuhoh, Burzaihoh, and Blackbull's "Stun Shot"==
 *To my knowledge, GH 434's Saiyuhoh and Burzaihoh were used at lower levels. Was there an update said to have changed the GH 434 since then? Is there any proof that they were completely removed at lower levels? Also if the "stun shot" reference was wrong, why was it not replaced with the correct bullet? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav|Zoamel Gustav]] 15:53, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 * I used the GH 434 EX device... and I had Maggie solo lots of S2 missions, and I never once saw her switch to [[Saiyuhoh]] or [[Burzaihoh]]. Also, Blackbull's PA is most likely correct, but it makes more sense to have a question mark there than to have an explanation, at least until that bullet PA gets released. - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 16:06, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 **"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 *I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 ** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 *My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. <br>Also, ([[Sakura Warpath]]) is most likely at [[Saguraki C.D.]] - [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
 **First, read what I said. "Maggie" is not a low level. "Maggie" is too high level to use those two rifles. They would not have shown. Some characters stop using some weapons at some character levels. Second, localization means translation. The name "([[Sakura Warpath]])" can not be confirmed and does not need to be yet. There are no question marks on the list of [[Missions]]. They are temporarily named. Putting question marks there would be confusing. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:55, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	*My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. <br>Also, ([[Sakura Warpath]]) is most likely at [[Saguraki C.D.]] - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		*My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. <br>Also, ([[Sakura Warpath]]) is most likely at [[Saguraki C.D.]] - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
		+	**First, read what I said. "Maggie" is not a low level. "Maggie" is too high level to use those two rifles. They would not have shown. Some characters stop using some weapons at some character levels. Second, localization means translation. The name "([[Sakura Warpath]])" can not be confirmed and does not need to be yet. There are no question marks on the list of [[Missions]]. They are temporarily named. Putting question marks there would be confusing. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:55, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities\|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities\|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

−	*My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)	+	*My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. <br>Also, ([[Sakura Warpath]]) is most likely at [[Saguraki C.D.]] - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
	** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities\|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities\|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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		+	*My [http://psupedia.info/User:Amaury#Human main character] is capped at level 130, so those two rifles would've shown, but they didn't. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 20:34, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
		+	** First, equips are based on [[Character Level]]. [[Partner characters#Abilities\|That is the whole point of the "Used during" column]]. Not seeing something happen does not mean it can not happen. Many characters have abilities they almost never ever use. Second, we don't know the localization of (Stun Shot). We also don't know the localization of ([[Sakura Warpath]]) or ([[Fires of Illusion]]) or many other things. Naming makes more sense because we do know it exists and there is information. A question mark means "we don't know", which is wrong because we do know about it. --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 20:29, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

−	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know~~, so~~ that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)	+	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know... So that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

−	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know, so that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)	+	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know, so that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. <br>Oh, and Maggie's battle stat is in the level 40s. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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	* I used the GH 434 EX device... and I had Maggie solo lots of S2 missions, and I never once saw her switch to [[Saiyuhoh]] or [[Burzaihoh]]. Also, Blackbull's PA is most likely correct, but it makes more sense to have a question mark there than to have an explanation, at least until that bullet PA gets released. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 16:06, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		* I used the GH 434 EX device... and I had Maggie solo lots of S2 missions, and I never once saw her switch to [[Saiyuhoh]] or [[Burzaihoh]]. Also, Blackbull's PA is most likely correct, but it makes more sense to have a question mark there than to have an explanation, at least until that bullet PA gets released. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 16:06, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
	**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)		**"Maggie" is not a low level. How does a question mark make more sense than an explanation? Why would being unreleased matter to this explanation? --[[User:Zoamel Gustav\|Zoamel Gustav]] 19:41, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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		+	*I'm saying that because its name might not be "Stun Shot", so it's kind of a confusion there. Then again, it might be, but you never know, so that's the reason why I said a question mark is better than an explanation. - [[User:Amaury\|Amaury]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (CDT)