Importing - Revision history

S-T-H: This should really be relocated as it's more of a [outdated] guide

2008-07-12T10:03:04Z

This should really be relocated as it's more of a [outdated] guide

Mewn: /* Player Reaction */

2006-11-16T18:47:46Z

‎Player Reaction

Miraglyth: Re-added the details of who confirmed the 360 version as region-free.

2006-11-16T16:57:43Z

Re-added the details of who confirmed the 360 version as region-free.

Tycho: /* Xbox 360 */ - wikified and removed redundant unconfirmed guessing

2006-11-16T16:24:17Z

‎Xbox 360: - wikified and removed redundant unconfirmed guessing

85.210.161.109 at 11:59, 16 November 2006

2006-11-16T11:59:13Z

Miraglyth: Used single brackets instead of double my mistake.

2006-10-28T14:00:27Z

Used single brackets instead of double my mistake.

Miraglyth: Import Madness allow buying of PSU again.

2006-10-28T13:59:24Z

Import Madness allow buying of PSU again.

Miraglyth: /* PSU-Specific Reasons */

2006-10-27T23:12:00Z

‎PSU-Specific Reasons

Miraglyth: Connected the Halloween link to the relevant subsection on the Events page.

2006-10-27T23:10:49Z

Connected the Halloween link to the relevant subsection on the Events page.

Tycho: intro clarification -- not really any info about importing the Japanese version

2006-10-27T21:48:56Z

intro clarification -- not really any info about importing the Japanese version

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	Whether or not Sega will continue to keep this stance remains to be seen, though most believe they will as "continued hostility" towards importers would bring about even further indignation.		Whether or not Sega will continue to keep this stance remains to be seen, though most believe they will as "continued hostility" towards importers would bring about even further indignation.
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 In spite of all this, no action was taken officially. It's possible that the immediate popularity of the thread is the direct cause of amending the "'''Shipping Now!'''" message on the front page, but besides that it appears that the thread has had no effect in swaying the current billing system.
-The thread was completely ignored by forum operators, a fact which was pointed out often during the first 24 hours when other threads were responded to or locked. While many people take this passive behaviour as insulting in that their efforts were being ignored, others were quick to point out that the thread wasn't getting locked either. Many people proclaimed belief that the forum moderators ''agreed'' with the movement but were unable to do much about it due to lacking any influence in Sega / Sega of America.
+The thread was completely ignored by forum operators, a fact which was pointed out often during the first 24 hours when other threads were responded to or locked. While many people take this passive behaviour as insulting in that their efforts were being ignored, others were quick to point out that the thread wasn't getting locked either. Many people proclaimed belief that the forum moderators ''agreed'' with the movement but were unable to do much about it due to lacking any influence in Sega / Sega of America. It should be noted that mods (i.e. those users with 'Site Mod' titles) are not actually Sega representatives, but rather long-standing and trusted forum members who moderate as a service to Sega. Only those with 'Site Admin' or 'Admin' titles, such as Clumsyorchid, are actual Sega employees.
 Despite almost no official support or response, the thread (as well as the PSO-W thread) also contained a progressive effort to work out how to subscribe to PlaySEGA for a Phantasy Star Universe account using a "United States" account with the importers' own cards.

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 =====Xbox 360=====
-The Xbox 360 version is region free.
+The Xbox 360 version is region free. Testers at [http://www.lik-sang.com/ Lik-Sang] first confirmed that they were able to play a copy of U.S. Phantasy Star Universe on a test European Xbox 360, and this discovery was later supported by many 360-using importers. As most of Sega's Xbox 360 games in the past were region-free, this wasn't a massive surprise, however.
-It is of interest that the payment method for Phantasy Star Universe was added early, and anyone with an Xbox Live "Silver Account" or greater could see and buy the option for an Xbox 360 GUARDIAN's License in their Marketplace. This included European accounts, and as such it would be easily possible to play Network Mode immediately after importing.
+It is of interest that the payment method for Phantasy Star Universe was added early, and anyone with an Xbox Live "Silver Account" or greater could see and buy the option for an Xbox 360 GUARDIAN's License in their Marketplace. This included European accounts, and as such it would have been easily possible to play Network Mode immediately after importing.
 ==Specifics==

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 =====Xbox 360=====
-The Xbox 360 does not necessarily feature region-locking as standard. Instead, games can be configured by the producers to include a region-lock if desired. This created uncertainty about importing for the Xbox 360 as it was unknown whether or not it would be region-free or not. Hopeful buyers were quick to point out that most of Sega's Xbox 360 games in the past were region-free.
+The Xbox 360 version is region free.
-Soon on release day, testers at [http://www.lik-sang.com/ Lik-Sang] claimed that they '''were''' able to play a copy of U.S. Phantasy Star Universe on a test European Xbox 360. This claim has yet to be verified by buyers but as Lik-Sang's business is selling to as large a userbase as possible while providing reputable customer service it is unlikely they would lie about something like this. I bought the game from VG+ and can state that the 360 version is indeed region free.
+It is of interest that the payment method for Phantasy Star Universe was added early, and anyone with an Xbox Live "Silver Account" or greater could see and buy the option for an Xbox 360 GUARDIAN's License in their Marketplace. This included European accounts, and as such it would be easily possible to play Network Mode immediately after importing.
 ==Specifics==

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 The Xbox 360 does not necessarily feature region-locking as standard. Instead, games can be configured by the producers to include a region-lock if desired. This created uncertainty about importing for the Xbox 360 as it was unknown whether or not it would be region-free or not. Hopeful buyers were quick to point out that most of Sega's Xbox 360 games in the past were region-free.
-Soon on release day, testers at [http://www.lik-sang.com/ Lik-Sang] claimed that they '''were''' able to play a copy of U.S. Phantasy Star Universe on a test European Xbox 360. This claim has yet to be verified by buyers but as Lik-Sang's business is selling to as large a userbase as possible while providing reputable customer service it is unlikely they would lie about something like this.
+Soon on release day, testers at [http://www.lik-sang.com/ Lik-Sang] claimed that they '''were''' able to play a copy of U.S. Phantasy Star Universe on a test European Xbox 360. This claim has yet to be verified by buyers but as Lik-Sang's business is selling to as large a userbase as possible while providing reputable customer service it is unlikely they would lie about something like this. I bought the game from VG+ and can state that the 360 version is indeed region free.
 Another point of interest is that the payment method for Phantasy Star Universe was added early, and anyone with an Xbox Live "Silver Account" or greater could see and buy the option for an Xbox 360 GUARDIAN's License in their Marketplace. This included European accounts, and as such it would be easily possible to play Network Mode immediately after importing.

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 This site acceps a large range of credit/debit cards, but not PayPal.
-For a while after [[Importing#Seller_Reaction|cancelling all existing orders for Phantasy Star Universe]], you could not import the game from Import Madness. You can now, but they do provide a warning about the [Importing#Changes|card issues] detailed later.
+For a while after [[Importing#Seller_Reaction|cancelling all existing orders for Phantasy Star Universe]], you could not import the game from Import Madness. You can now, but they do provide a warning about the [[Importing#Changes|card issues]] detailed later.
 =====Lik-Sang=====

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 * Without importing, many European (among others) players would essentially be "handicapped" when compared with players from the United States.
-* If the game is to implement the known [[Event#Halloween|Halloween Seasonal Event]] this year, players not from North America would also need to import to be able to partake in the event, or be forced to wait until late 2007.
+* If the game is to implement the known [[Events#Halloween|Halloween Seasonal Event]] this year, players not from North America would also need to import to be able to partake in the event, or be forced to wait until late 2007.
 ===Region-Free===

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−	Importing is a self-explanatory process name - the act of shipping in a copy of (in this instance) a game from another region.	+	Importing is a self-explanatory process name - the act of shipping in a copy of (in this instance) a game from another region. This article is currently mainly about European and Australian players importing the American release of the game.

	==Basic Details==		==Basic Details==