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User:KyTin

2007-11-14T17:31:34Z

KyTin: /* Gear */ added my three new toys : )

{{User:KyTin/360 Only}}

==Characters==
[[Image:KyTin-Lenneth-0001.jpg|thumb| Left to right, Lenneth, KyTin Ovrok.]]
{{Character Profile
|name= KyTin Ovrok |race= Newmen |gender= ♂ |level= 88 |type= Wartecher |HU= 3 |RA= 5 |FO= 10 |FI= 0 |GT= 2 |WT= 10 |FF= 0 |FG= 0 |FT= 5 |PT= 0
|name2= Leviticus |race2= Cast |gender2= ♂ |level2= 27 |type2= Guntecher |HU2= 0 |RA2= 5 |FO2= 3 |FI2= 0 |GT2= 3 |WT2= 0 |FF2= 0 |FG2= 0 |FT2= 0 |PT2= 0
|name3= Kael Ritter |race3= Human |gender3= ♂ |level3= 14 |type3= Guntecher |HU3= 0 |RA3= 5 |FO3= 4 |FI3= 0 |GT3= 1 |WT3= 0 |FF3= 0 |FG3= 0 |FT3= 0 |PT3= 0
}}

==Gear==
'''KyTin Ovrok'''
WT/FT/AT/GT Gear
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=S|Name=Uransara|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Fire|Element2=Light|Stars=10|PA=Foie|PA2=Resta|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=S|Name=Deva-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Light|Element-Amount=12%|Grinds=-|Stars=10|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Light|Element-Amount=16%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Light|Element-Amount=10%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Dark|Element-Amount=16%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=12%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Ulteri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=2|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Lidra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=6|Stars=8|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=2|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=1|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki|Element-Amount=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=S|Name=Rabol Lebfa|Logo=T|Type=Line shield|Element=Dark|Stars=10|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=12%|PA=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=B|Name=Tero / All Save|Logo=G|Element=Neutral|Stars=6|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=-|PA=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=B|Name=Me / Quick|Logo=Y|Element=Neutral|Stars=4|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=-|PA=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Har / Quick|Logo=Y|Element=Neutral|Stars=7|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=-|PA=-}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Giga / Bullet PP Save|Logo=G|Element=Neutral|Stars=8|Grinds=-|Element-Amount=-|PA=-}}
{{Gear-End}}

'''Kael Ritter'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-End}}

'''Template'''

Template for the Above tables is located at '''[[Template:Gear-Item]]''' along with information on using it.

==Userful Links==
[[Rare monsters|Rare Map Guide]]

[[Required Experience by Level|Experience Required to Level]]

[[1Up Platinum Cup|1Up Platinum Cup Drop Charts Ect]]

[[Ambition of the Illuminus]]

[[Changes in Ambition of the Illuminus]]

==Saved Articles & Debates==

[[User_talk:KyTin/Guilds_Debate|Guilds Debate]]

==Project==
[[User:KyTin/360 only| Xbox 360 Only Template]]

[[Planet's Scar|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template]]

[[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template - Sandbox]]

==Related==
[[User:Lenneth|Lenneth]]

[[User:JaceX|Jacex]]

[[User:KyTin/Forgotten Knights Guild|The Forgotten Knights Guild]]

==Armor==
[[Line Shields|Line Shields List & Stats]]

[[Units|Shield Units List & Stats]]

==Weapons==
{{Weapons}}

Har / Quick

2007-11-14T17:24:47Z

KyTin: /* Item details */

''Upgrade unit for armor. Lowers TP (TECHNIC points), but increases TECHNIC speed.'' 
{{7 stars}}

==Item details==
* 300% TECHNIC speed or three times faster.

==Stats, drops and pricing==
{| border="0" width="100%"
{| border="0" align="center"
|- valign="top"
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''Stats'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Type''' || [[Head units | Head]] || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Maker''' || {{Logo-Y}}
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Rarity''' || {{Color-A}} | 7★ || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Tech.''' || -100
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Ver.''' || {{PSU version}} || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Ment.''' || 0
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan="2" | '''Drop information'''
|-style="background:#f2f2f2"
| '''Enemy/Mission''' || '''Level'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| [[Demons Above]] || S-S2
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| [[The Eastern Peril]] || S2
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#e8e8e8" | '''Pricing information'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Buy price''' || N/A
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Sell price''' || 3500
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Shop location''' || None
|}
|}
|}
[[Category:Head units]]

User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-12T23:14:37Z

KyTin: /* User comments */

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)
* Just wondering why you deleted my user page I was working on today? [[User:Emrald???|Emrald???]]
** Sorry about that! It was right smack in the middle of some vandal's crap on the recent changes page, and I took it out by mistake. (I was in a bit of a hurry since I was at work at the time.) I've since restored it for you. Again, my apologies! - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 17:10, 12 November 2007 (CST)
*** Was guessing thats what happened geez that was one busy vandal. just as the market in psu is getting stable again we have vandals on here and markets going nuts again in 4 days... yay. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:14, 12 November 2007 (CST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
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== Templates ==
* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Try [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template this one]. It should be able to help you out some. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* When I finish up my little Weapon and Armor in use table where should I post the template before adding it to templates when I have the template done. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:41, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** The finished product will go into /Template:Whatever. You will invoke it with {{Whatever}}, adding whatever parameters it needs. There's not really a way to test it without it being in the Template:Whatever location, so there's no real need to upload it somewhere for approval first :P --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 20:44, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** I have been testing it by putting the full page title User:KyTin/Gear-Start, User:KyTin/Gear-Item, User:KyTin/Gear-End in the template title. But I'll move them there as soon as i finsh it up thanks. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* Well thanks for the help my first template is done hope everyone likes it [[Template:Gear-Item]]. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:45, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Well, appart from the laughably typo'd "Ect," that looks ok, I guess. I'm not really one for all the flashy stuff on user pages, since I'd rather devote what little time I have to meaningful articles, but I guess some people might like this. Anyway, I'd like to remind you once again to use the preview button more frequently, because you make a ton of rapid edits that makes the recent changes page look like a bomb went off. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:13, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** Working on that i had some issues with extra lines from <nowiki> <noinclude> and <includeonly></nowiki> and line breaks ill try to cut back. I'll fix the typo later as to not clutter the edits any more. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 23:48, 8 November 2007 (CST)

Cati-senba

2007-11-09T23:53:59Z

KyTin: /* Stats, synthesis, etc. */ correcting character why o does look like ○ i dont know what ○ is

''<insert description>'' 
{{9 stars}}

==Item details==
* No additional details of note.

==Stats, synthesis, etc.==
{| border="0" width="100%"
{| border="0" align="center"
|- valign="top"
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''Stats'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Type''' || {{Line shield icon}} || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''DFP''' || 168
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Rarity'''|| {{Color-A}}|9★ || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''EVP''' || 187
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Version''' || {{PSU version}} || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''MST''' || 146
|-
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Mfg.''' || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei]] || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Req.''' || 66
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''Board Stats'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Photon''' || [[???-photon]] x20 || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Ore''' || [[Vulcaline]] x??
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Hard material''' || [[Ortaresin]] x?? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | - || -
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Uses''' || ? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Synth Rate''' || ??-37%
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Synth Time''' || ? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Used''' || [B] Cati-senba
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8" | '''Pricing Information'''
|- style="background:#f2f2f2"
| colspan="2"|'''Line shield''' || colspan="2"|'''Board'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Buy Price''' || N/A || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Buy Price''' || N/A
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Sell Price''' || Unknown || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Sell Price''' || Unknown
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Shop Location''' || None || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Shop Location''' || None
|}
|}
|}
{| border="0" width="100%"
{| border="0" align="center"
|- valign="top"
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan="4"| '''Slot Information'''
|-style="background:#f2f2f2"
| '''Head''' || '''Arm''' || '''Body''' || '''Extra'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| ○ || ○ || ○ || -
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan="4" | '''Drop Information'''
|-style="background:#f2f2f2"
| '''Monster/Mission''' || '''Level''' || '''Type'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| ? || ? || Board
|}
|}
|}

Talk:Scarred Planet

2007-11-09T23:49:55Z

KyTin: /* PA Fragments */

== Making an actual infobox ==
* If you change the class type from "wikitable" to "infobox" it makes the table placement look a lot less awkward. However, it also removes the table borders both inside and outside along with any background color. I was able to put borders back in, but I can't seem to get rid of the wide spacing between cells. I also had to add a background color so that the horizontal header rules wouldn't bleed through. Of course, I'd like to get a set color scheme going for mission boxes; something different from the standard grays of the wikitables would be nice. Anyway, anyone have any suggestions? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 10:57, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** Kinda thing that the background color being the way the wikitable was would be good. But in hurry to get to work had just enough time to fix the spacing between cells. <pre>cellspacing="0"</pre> (do you know how to set image sizes..I cannot figure that out) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 11:21, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Ack, the extra thick borders look really odd in comparison to the rest of the tables. Considering that the infobox class is a wiki-specific thing, no matter what, it might be set to have thick borders. If that's the case, I think a light color, probably just white, would be best. Image sizes can be set by adding the dimensions you want the image (in pixels) in this format, <code><nowiki>36x255px</nowiki></code>, to your image tag. For example, <code><nowiki>[[Image:GRM-logo.png|19x19px|G.R.M.]]</nowiki></code>. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:48, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** You can add the word thin after gray to the style block and it will make the borders thinner. You have the styles set in a lot of places though so you'll have to set it in a few places. I didn't want to make the change my self, thought you should see if you like that fix or not. Style tags work pretty much the same on here as with normal css files and inlines so stuff like this i can help with a lot thank god, don't feel totally useless anymore. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 12:50, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** If you would like i can show you the changes and see what you think might take me a bit to change the style placements to get it to work right though. Just glad i can help with something that will be used around here a lot, hopefully it will be at least mission pages will be such a big help when filled in. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:00, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** Sure, give it a shot. I've been messing around with it for a bit, but I still always end up with some of the cell borders remaining thick. XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:06, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** OK, I started [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|another page]] with an alternate design just so we'll have multiple places to share ideas. I think we could probably color-code the mission title cell to go along with whatever planet the mission takes place on. For example, gray for the Colony, blue for Parum, green for Neudaiz and red (or orange) for Moatoob. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:34, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
****** Oh my poor head, right after much fighting i think we need to drop that class to get it to look the way you want. Is there any way to look at the code for that class, if we keep using it the table code will be so cluttered and make people not want to work with it. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 16:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******* Yeah, it gets kind of annoying. XD However, my intent is to turn this infobox into a proper template (after we complete our design) where all you have to do is copy-paste a simple bit of code and fill in the labeled sections. That way, no one will ever have to fuss with the markup and HTML again. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:52, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** If only it was my beloved HTML... -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:55, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** Ouch my head hurts... but hey thats what you wanted it to look like right ;). -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 22:32, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
********* I swapped the adjustments you made to the table in my sandbox to this page. I'm still toying with the idea of keeping the infoxbox dividers. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 01:14, 4 November 2007 (CDT)

== Article info ==
* Is it just me, or does the rewards table look funny next to the infobox? D: We might have to find something else to fill in the space and put all other tables below the cutoff of the infobox. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**I do believe that the title over the rewards table is whats making it look funny because it runs through the info box. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:15, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**Okay I think if you more info box to the left and the rewards to the right you might like that look a little better its different but. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:26, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

==Carried away but==
* Okay I will say this i got carried away with the C, B, A, S parts but there are redirects for fire, lighting, light to the page [[Elements]].
** Added them back. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== PA Fragments ==
* With S & S2 missions both giving PA Fragments, and all the A Rank missions from [[Firebreak]]. It might be worth having a place to list this amount even though this could seem pointless most of the time. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:14, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** It's already there. I've included PA Fragment rewards as a reference number next to the S level listing. When you click on the number, it will jump down to the line of text associated with it; in this case, the line saying that you'll get one Fragment for S-ranking an S-rank mission. ;) I think I tried before to include the Fragment reward in the cells with Meseta and MP, but it looked really weird, so I opted for this method. I might mess around with that some more, though. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** There we go. I've adjusted the table to include the PA Fragment reward with the Meseta and MP rewards. Also got rid of some extra space that was in it at the top by combining a few rows. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:46, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**** Looks good : ) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:49, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
***** tbh I've never been fond of the PAF placement there. It adds two rows to the table, after all. Since all PAFs ever seem to require an S rank, might it be an idea to add a column there? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 17:37, 9 November 2007 (CST)
****** During [[Operation Firebreak]] A rank mission also dropped PAFs it might be a rare thing or something that never happens again. But it has happened and who knows what the future holds and the number of pages this is on to keep them all uniformed would require a lot of editing should this ever come up again. Not to say its 100% needed just why I feel it would be better to leave it in for now. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:49, 9 November 2007 (CST)

== Is there a version icon ==
* I thought that i saw a version icon on here somewhere that might be worth adding if you know where/how. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:21, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** Yeah, we've got one, but I didn't use it since it would look a little awkward with it being so small and leaving such a large amount of open space in the "version" cell. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Oh no I was thinking version with icon just so people see that this icon is this version more often. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:27, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
* What about using icon on the lobby to show if the lobby is AotI or not. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 00:15, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** No need at all for the icon in these articles, to be honest. The version of the game is identified twice now; once in the appropriate field and another time by the ''AotI''-only thinger that's now at the bottom of the page. That icon was mainly made for use in the weapons/line shields/items tables. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:37, 3 November 2007 (CDT)

== Planet ==
* Might be a kick self in butt thing for not thinking about it sooner and maybe its not something needed. But was looking at some of the new pages and thought hmmm what planet is this place on? -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 14:52, 9 November 2007 (CST)
** I figured a place for the planet would be unnecessary since I've color-coded each of the templates (in the mission name field) to coincide with its respective location. Gray for the GUARDIANS Colony and HIVE, blue for Parum, green for Neudaiz and orange for Moatoob. Also, with the field and mission counter names given, that should kind of clue folks in. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:55, 9 November 2007 (CST)
*** Forgot about the color coding lol, yeah i guess more people will know the start counters when [[AotI]] comes out. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 9 November 2007 (CST)

Cati-senba

2007-11-09T23:28:40Z

KyTin: /* Stats, synthesis, etc. */ Used this for long time it has body doesnt have extra

''<insert description>'' 
{{9 stars}}

==Item details==
* No additional details of note.

==Stats, synthesis, etc.==
{| border="0" width="100%"
{| border="0" align="center"
|- valign="top"
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''Stats'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Type''' || {{Line shield icon}} || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''DFP''' || 168
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Rarity'''|| {{Color-A}}|9★ || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''EVP''' || 187
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Version''' || {{PSU version}} || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''MST''' || 146
|-
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Mfg.''' || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei]] || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Req.''' || 66
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''Board Stats'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Photon''' || [[???-photon]] x20 || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Ore''' || [[Vulcaline]] x??
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Hard material''' || [[Ortaresin]] x?? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | - || -
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Uses''' || ? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Synth Rate''' || ??-37%
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Synth Time''' || ? || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Used''' || [B] Cati-senba
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8" | '''Pricing Information'''
|- style="background:#f2f2f2"
| colspan="2"|'''Line shield''' || colspan="2"|'''Board'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Buy Price''' || N/A || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Buy Price''' || N/A
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Sell Price''' || Unknown || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Sell Price''' || Unknown
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Shop Location''' || None || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Shop Location''' || None
|}
|}
|}
{| border="0" width="100%"
{| border="0" align="center"
|- valign="top"
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan="4"| '''Slot Information'''
|-style="background:#f2f2f2"
| '''Head''' || '''Arm''' || '''Body''' || '''Extra'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| ○ || ○ || o || -
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan="4" | '''Drop Information'''
|-style="background:#f2f2f2"
| '''Monster/Mission''' || '''Level''' || '''Type'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| ? || ? || Board
|}
|}
|}

Talk:Scarred Planet

2007-11-09T21:08:54Z

KyTin: /* Planet */

== Making an actual infobox ==
* If you change the class type from "wikitable" to "infobox" it makes the table placement look a lot less awkward. However, it also removes the table borders both inside and outside along with any background color. I was able to put borders back in, but I can't seem to get rid of the wide spacing between cells. I also had to add a background color so that the horizontal header rules wouldn't bleed through. Of course, I'd like to get a set color scheme going for mission boxes; something different from the standard grays of the wikitables would be nice. Anyway, anyone have any suggestions? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 10:57, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** Kinda thing that the background color being the way the wikitable was would be good. But in hurry to get to work had just enough time to fix the spacing between cells. <pre>cellspacing="0"</pre> (do you know how to set image sizes..I cannot figure that out) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 11:21, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Ack, the extra thick borders look really odd in comparison to the rest of the tables. Considering that the infobox class is a wiki-specific thing, no matter what, it might be set to have thick borders. If that's the case, I think a light color, probably just white, would be best. Image sizes can be set by adding the dimensions you want the image (in pixels) in this format, <code><nowiki>36x255px</nowiki></code>, to your image tag. For example, <code><nowiki>[[Image:GRM-logo.png|19x19px|G.R.M.]]</nowiki></code>. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:48, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** You can add the word thin after gray to the style block and it will make the borders thinner. You have the styles set in a lot of places though so you'll have to set it in a few places. I didn't want to make the change my self, thought you should see if you like that fix or not. Style tags work pretty much the same on here as with normal css files and inlines so stuff like this i can help with a lot thank god, don't feel totally useless anymore. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 12:50, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** If you would like i can show you the changes and see what you think might take me a bit to change the style placements to get it to work right though. Just glad i can help with something that will be used around here a lot, hopefully it will be at least mission pages will be such a big help when filled in. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:00, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** Sure, give it a shot. I've been messing around with it for a bit, but I still always end up with some of the cell borders remaining thick. XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:06, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** OK, I started [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|another page]] with an alternate design just so we'll have multiple places to share ideas. I think we could probably color-code the mission title cell to go along with whatever planet the mission takes place on. For example, gray for the Colony, blue for Parum, green for Neudaiz and red (or orange) for Moatoob. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:34, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
****** Oh my poor head, right after much fighting i think we need to drop that class to get it to look the way you want. Is there any way to look at the code for that class, if we keep using it the table code will be so cluttered and make people not want to work with it. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 16:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******* Yeah, it gets kind of annoying. XD However, my intent is to turn this infobox into a proper template (after we complete our design) where all you have to do is copy-paste a simple bit of code and fill in the labeled sections. That way, no one will ever have to fuss with the markup and HTML again. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:52, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** If only it was my beloved HTML... -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:55, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** Ouch my head hurts... but hey thats what you wanted it to look like right ;). -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 22:32, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
********* I swapped the adjustments you made to the table in my sandbox to this page. I'm still toying with the idea of keeping the infoxbox dividers. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 01:14, 4 November 2007 (CDT)

== Article info ==
* Is it just me, or does the rewards table look funny next to the infobox? D: We might have to find something else to fill in the space and put all other tables below the cutoff of the infobox. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**I do believe that the title over the rewards table is whats making it look funny because it runs through the info box. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:15, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**Okay I think if you more info box to the left and the rewards to the right you might like that look a little better its different but. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:26, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

==Carried away but==
* Okay I will say this i got carried away with the C, B, A, S parts but there are redirects for fire, lighting, light to the page [[Elements]].
** Added them back. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== PA Fragments ==
* With S & S2 missions both giving PA Fragments, and all the A Rank missions from [[Firebreak]]. It might be worth having a place to list this amount even though this could seem pointless most of the time. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:14, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** It's already there. I've included PA Fragment rewards as a reference number next to the S level listing. When you click on the number, it will jump down to the line of text associated with it; in this case, the line saying that you'll get one Fragment for S-ranking an S-rank mission. ;) I think I tried before to include the Fragment reward in the cells with Meseta and MP, but it looked really weird, so I opted for this method. I might mess around with that some more, though. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** There we go. I've adjusted the table to include the PA Fragment reward with the Meseta and MP rewards. Also got rid of some extra space that was in it at the top by combining a few rows. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:46, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**** Looks good : ) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:49, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== Is there a version icon ==
* I thought that i saw a version icon on here somewhere that might be worth adding if you know where/how. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:21, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** Yeah, we've got one, but I didn't use it since it would look a little awkward with it being so small and leaving such a large amount of open space in the "version" cell. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Oh no I was thinking version with icon just so people see that this icon is this version more often. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:27, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
* What about using icon on the lobby to show if the lobby is AotI or not. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 00:15, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** No need at all for the icon in these articles, to be honest. The version of the game is identified twice now; once in the appropriate field and another time by the ''AotI''-only thinger that's now at the bottom of the page. That icon was mainly made for use in the weapons/line shields/items tables. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:37, 3 November 2007 (CDT)

== Planet ==
* Might be a kick self in butt thing for not thinking about it sooner and maybe its not something needed. But was looking at some of the new pages and thought hmmm what planet is this place on? -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 14:52, 9 November 2007 (CST)
** I figured a place for the planet would be unnecessary since I've color-coded each of the templates (in the mission name field) to coincide with its respective location. Gray for the GUARDIANS Colony and HIVE, blue for Parum, green for Neudaiz and orange for Moatoob. Also, with the field and mission counter names given, that should kind of clue folks in. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:55, 9 November 2007 (CST)
*** Forgot about the color coding lol, yeah i guess more people will know the start counters when [[AotI]] comes out. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 9 November 2007 (CST)

Talk:Scarred Planet

2007-11-09T20:52:23Z

KyTin: Planet

== Making an actual infobox ==
* If you change the class type from "wikitable" to "infobox" it makes the table placement look a lot less awkward. However, it also removes the table borders both inside and outside along with any background color. I was able to put borders back in, but I can't seem to get rid of the wide spacing between cells. I also had to add a background color so that the horizontal header rules wouldn't bleed through. Of course, I'd like to get a set color scheme going for mission boxes; something different from the standard grays of the wikitables would be nice. Anyway, anyone have any suggestions? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 10:57, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** Kinda thing that the background color being the way the wikitable was would be good. But in hurry to get to work had just enough time to fix the spacing between cells. <pre>cellspacing="0"</pre> (do you know how to set image sizes..I cannot figure that out) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 11:21, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Ack, the extra thick borders look really odd in comparison to the rest of the tables. Considering that the infobox class is a wiki-specific thing, no matter what, it might be set to have thick borders. If that's the case, I think a light color, probably just white, would be best. Image sizes can be set by adding the dimensions you want the image (in pixels) in this format, <code><nowiki>36x255px</nowiki></code>, to your image tag. For example, <code><nowiki>[[Image:GRM-logo.png|19x19px|G.R.M.]]</nowiki></code>. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:48, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** You can add the word thin after gray to the style block and it will make the borders thinner. You have the styles set in a lot of places though so you'll have to set it in a few places. I didn't want to make the change my self, thought you should see if you like that fix or not. Style tags work pretty much the same on here as with normal css files and inlines so stuff like this i can help with a lot thank god, don't feel totally useless anymore. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 12:50, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
**** If you would like i can show you the changes and see what you think might take me a bit to change the style placements to get it to work right though. Just glad i can help with something that will be used around here a lot, hopefully it will be at least mission pages will be such a big help when filled in. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:00, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** Sure, give it a shot. I've been messing around with it for a bit, but I still always end up with some of the cell borders remaining thick. XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:06, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
***** OK, I started [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|another page]] with an alternate design just so we'll have multiple places to share ideas. I think we could probably color-code the mission title cell to go along with whatever planet the mission takes place on. For example, gray for the Colony, blue for Parum, green for Neudaiz and red (or orange) for Moatoob. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:34, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
****** Oh my poor head, right after much fighting i think we need to drop that class to get it to look the way you want. Is there any way to look at the code for that class, if we keep using it the table code will be so cluttered and make people not want to work with it. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 16:35, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******* Yeah, it gets kind of annoying. XD However, my intent is to turn this infobox into a proper template (after we complete our design) where all you have to do is copy-paste a simple bit of code and fill in the labeled sections. That way, no one will ever have to fuss with the markup and HTML again. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:52, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** If only it was my beloved HTML... -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:55, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
******** Ouch my head hurts... but hey thats what you wanted it to look like right ;). -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 22:32, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
********* I swapped the adjustments you made to the table in my sandbox to this page. I'm still toying with the idea of keeping the infoxbox dividers. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 01:14, 4 November 2007 (CDT)

== Article info ==
* Is it just me, or does the rewards table look funny next to the infobox? D: We might have to find something else to fill in the space and put all other tables below the cutoff of the infobox. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**I do believe that the title over the rewards table is whats making it look funny because it runs through the info box. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:15, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**Okay I think if you more info box to the left and the rewards to the right you might like that look a little better its different but. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:26, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

==Carried away but==
* Okay I will say this i got carried away with the C, B, A, S parts but there are redirects for fire, lighting, light to the page [[Elements]].
** Added them back. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== PA Fragments ==
* With S & S2 missions both giving PA Fragments, and all the A Rank missions from [[Firebreak]]. It might be worth having a place to list this amount even though this could seem pointless most of the time. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:14, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** It's already there. I've included PA Fragment rewards as a reference number next to the S level listing. When you click on the number, it will jump down to the line of text associated with it; in this case, the line saying that you'll get one Fragment for S-ranking an S-rank mission. ;) I think I tried before to include the Fragment reward in the cells with Meseta and MP, but it looked really weird, so I opted for this method. I might mess around with that some more, though. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** There we go. I've adjusted the table to include the PA Fragment reward with the Meseta and MP rewards. Also got rid of some extra space that was in it at the top by combining a few rows. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:46, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
**** Looks good : ) -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:49, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== Is there a version icon ==
* I thought that i saw a version icon on here somewhere that might be worth adding if you know where/how. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:21, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
** Yeah, we've got one, but I didn't use it since it would look a little awkward with it being so small and leaving such a large amount of open space in the "version" cell. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:23, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
*** Oh no I was thinking version with icon just so people see that this icon is this version more often. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:27, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
* What about using icon on the lobby to show if the lobby is AotI or not. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 00:15, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
** No need at all for the icon in these articles, to be honest. The version of the game is identified twice now; once in the appropriate field and another time by the ''AotI''-only thinger that's now at the bottom of the page. That icon was mainly made for use in the weapons/line shields/items tables. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:37, 3 November 2007 (CDT)

== Planet ==

* Might be a kick self in butt thing for not thinking about it sooner and maybe its not something needed. But was looking at some of the new pages and thought hmmm what planet is this place on? -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 14:52, 9 November 2007 (CST)

The re-PSUPedia talk:To-do list

2007-11-09T20:16:44Z

KyTin: /* List overhaul */

== List overhaul ==
* Sir! Requesting permission to overhaul this page to create an active to-do list for the staff, sir! - (<_<;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:02, 9 November 2007 (CST)
** I second that motion -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 14:16, 9 November 2007 (CST)

== wfRunPHPpage ==
* Er, I don't even know what this is anyway. Hitomi, do you know? If it's bad/useless/whatever, like Seikas suspected, I wouldn't mind if it was done away with. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:46, 2 January 2007 (CST)
* Was using it for a future suprize mod :P, I'll disable it when I'm done --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 18:55, 2 January 2007 (CST)

User:KyTin

2007-11-09T20:13:37Z

KyTin: /* Gear */ Converted to templated version

{{User:KyTin/360 Only}}

==Characters==
[[Image:KyTin-Lenneth-0001.jpg|thumb| Left to right, Lenneth, KyTin Ovrok.]]
{{Character Profile
|name= KyTin Ovrok |race= Newmen |gender= ♂ |level= 88 |type= Wartecher |HU= 3 |RA= 5 |FO= 10 |FI= 0 |GT= 2 |WT= 10 |FF= 0 |FG= 0 |FT= 5 |PT= 0
|name2= Leviticus |race2= Cast |gender2= ♂ |level2= 27 |type2= Guntecher |HU2= 0 |RA2= 5 |FO2= 3 |FI2= 0 |GT2= 3 |WT2= 0 |FF2= 0 |FG2= 0 |FT2= 0 |PT2= 0
|name3= Kael Ritter |race3= Human |gender3= ♂ |level3= 14 |type3= Guntecher |HU3= 0 |RA3= 5 |FO3= 4 |FI3= 0 |GT3= 1 |WT3= 0 |FF3= 0 |FG3= 0 |FT3= 0 |PT3= 0
}}

==Gear==
'''KyTin Ovrok'''
WT/FT/AT Gear
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=S|Name=Uransara|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Fire|Element2=Light|Stars=10|PA=Foie|PA2=Resta}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Light|Element-Amount=16%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Light|Element-Amount=10%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Dark|Element-Amount=16%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Shiratsuno-zashi|Logo=Y|Type=Dagger|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=12%|Grinds=4|Stars=9|PA=Hikai Shuha-zan}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Ulteri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Majimra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=2|Stars=9|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Lidra|Logo=Y|Type=Wand|Element=Light|Element2=Dark|Grinds=6|Stars=8|PA=Giresta|PA2=Medistar}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=3|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=2|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=A|Name=Mira-kikami|Logo=Y|Type=Card|Element=Neutral|Grinds=1|Stars=9|PA=Masei-shiki}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=S|Name=Rabol Lebfa|Logo=T|Type=Line shield|Element=Dark|Stars=10}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=B|Name=Tero / All Save|Logo=G|Element=Neutral|Stars=6}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=B|Name=Me / Quick|Logo=Y|Element=Neutral|Stars=4}}
{{Gear-End}}

'''Kael Ritter'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-Item|Grade=C|Name=Compadri|Logo=Y|Type=Longbow|Element=Light|Element-Amount=19%|Grinds=6|Stars=3|PA=Yousei-sou}}
{{Gear-End}}

'''Template'''

Template for the Above tables is located at '''[[Template:Gear-Item]]''' along with information on using it.

==Userful Links==
[[Rare monsters|Rare Map Guide]]

[[Required Experience by Level|Experience Required to Level]]

[[1Up Platinum Cup|1Up Platinum Cup Drop Charts Ect]]

[[Ambition of the Illuminus]]

[[Changes in Ambition of the Illuminus]]

==Saved Articles & Debates==

[[User_talk:KyTin/Guilds_Debate|Guilds Debate]]

==Project==
[[User:KyTin/360 only| Xbox 360 Only Template]]

[[Planet's Scar|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template]]

[[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template - Sandbox]]

==Related==
[[User:Lenneth|Lenneth]]

[[User:JaceX|Jacex]]

[[User:KyTin/Forgotten Knights Guild|The Forgotten Knights Guild]]

==Armor==
[[Line Shields|Line Shields List & Stats]]

[[Units|Shield Units List & Stats]]

==Weapons==
{{Weapons}}

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T19:57:24Z

KyTin: removing 2 spaces for multi element display formating

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}}}}|}}{{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}}{{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

'''Parameters for Gear-Item are'''
*Grade (C, B, A, S)
*Name (Crea Saber, Halarod)
*Logo (G, Y, K, T)
*Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
*Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light)
*Element-Amount (10%, 20%)
*Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9)
*Stars (1, 2, 3, 4)
*PA (Dark Shot, Foie)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template talk:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T19:50:57Z

KyTin: short message

==Gear==
* Well everyone that makes it here thanks for taking a look at the template. I know it is just "sparkle" for the User:pages but thought it would be a safer project for me to play with templates on. Also would like to thank [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] for [[Template:Line shield icon]]{{Line shield icon}} which will work with this template. And everyone else that has provided templates for use on this site. I might not be the best person at gathering information but I would like to help with the display of that information so if you have an idea that you need help making the media of display just let me know.
Thank You -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:50, 9 November 2007 (CST)

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T19:43:36Z

KyTin: Removing Ect..

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

'''Parameters for Gear-Item are'''
*Grade (C, B, A, S)
*Name (Crea Saber, Halarod)
*Logo (G, Y, K, T)
*Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
*Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light)
*Element-Amount (10%, 20%)
*Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9)
*Stars (1, 2, 3, 4)
*PA (Dark Shot, Foie)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Crea Saber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

User talk:Spyder 360

2007-11-09T19:33:09Z

KyTin: /* Displaying Weapons */

== Displaying Weapons ==

* Hey just spent a lot of time yesterday working on a weapons display system notice your working on one to just wanted to see if you had any thought on the one on my page. [[User:KyTin#gear|Gear]] I want to template it if everyone likes it or enough people do but let me know what you think thank you. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:48, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* Thank nice to know someone likes it and just wanted to let you know I've templated it [[Template:Gear-Item]], I'll be updating my page to use the template soon. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 13:33, 9 November 2007 (CST)

User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-09T05:48:39Z

KyTin: /* Templates */

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
----
----

== Templates ==
* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Try [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template this one]. It should be able to help you out some. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* When I finish up my little Weapon and Armor in use table where should I post the template before adding it to templates when I have the template done. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:41, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** The finished product will go into /Template:Whatever. You will invoke it with {{Whatever}}, adding whatever parameters it needs. There's not really a way to test it without it being in the Template:Whatever location, so there's no real need to upload it somewhere for approval first :P --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 20:44, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** I have been testing it by putting the full page title User:KyTin/Gear-Start, User:KyTin/Gear-Item, User:KyTin/Gear-End in the template title. But I'll move them there as soon as i finsh it up thanks. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* Well thanks for the help my first template is done hope everyone likes it [[Template:Gear-Item]]. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:45, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Well, appart from the laughably typo'd "Ect," that looks ok, I guess. I'm not really one for all the flashy stuff on user pages, since I'd rather devote what little time I have to meaningful articles, but I guess some people might like this. Anyway, I'd like to remind you once again to use the preview button more frequently, because you make a ton of rapid edits that makes the recent changes page look like a bomb went off. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:13, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** Working on that i had some issues with extra lines from <nowiki> <noinclude> and <includeonly></nowiki> and line breaks ill try to cut back. I'll fix the typo later as to not clutter the edits any more. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 23:48, 8 November 2007 (CST)

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:58:16Z

KyTin: Making Redirect

#REDIRECT [[Template:Gear-Item]]
<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<nowiki>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</nowiki>
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear

2007-11-09T03:57:11Z

KyTin: Making Redirect

#REDIRECT [[Template:Gear-Item]]
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<nowiki>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</nowiki>

'''Output'''
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}

User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-09T03:45:24Z

KyTin: /* Templates */

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
----
----

== Templates ==
* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Try [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template this one]. It should be able to help you out some. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* When I finish up my little Weapon and Armor in use table where should I post the template before adding it to templates when I have the template done. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:41, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** The finished product will go into /Template:Whatever. You will invoke it with {{Whatever}}, adding whatever parameters it needs. There's not really a way to test it without it being in the Template:Whatever location, so there's no real need to upload it somewhere for approval first :P --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 20:44, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** I have been testing it by putting the full page title User:KyTin/Gear-Start, User:KyTin/Gear-Item, User:KyTin/Gear-End in the template title. But I'll move them there as soon as i finsh it up thanks. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* Well thanks for the help my first template is done hope everyone likes it [[Template:Gear-Item]]. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 21:45, 8 November 2007 (CST)

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:41:39Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

'''Parameters for Gear-Item are'''
*Grade (C, B, A, S)
*Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
*Logo (G, Y, K, T)
*Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
*Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
*Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
*Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
*Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
*PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-End

2007-11-09T03:29:20Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|-
|}</includeonly>
<noinclude>
Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-Item]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:28:21Z

KyTin: Some small buigs fixed sorry about all the edits.

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:27:42Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:26:42Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}}}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<pre>
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}
</pre>

'''Output'''
{{Gear-Start}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Fire|Element-Amount=20%|PA=Rising Strike}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Ice|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G|Element=Light|Element-Amount=20%}}
{{Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:17:59Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<nowiki>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</nowiki>

'''Output'''
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}

----

Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:16:33Z

KyTin: Finally ready for people to test and try out hope everyone likes it

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<nowiki>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</nowiki>

'''Output'''
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-End

2007-11-09T03:14:30Z

KyTin: New page: <includeonly> |- |} </includeonly> <noinclude> Use with Template:Gear-Start & Template:Gear-Item. </noinclude>

<includeonly>
|-
|}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
Use with [[Template:Gear-Start]] & [[Template:Gear-Item]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Start

2007-11-09T03:12:37Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art</includeonly>
<noinclude>
Use with [[Template:Gear-Item]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</noinclude>

Template:Gear-Start

2007-11-09T03:11:31Z

KyTin: Use with Gear-Item & Gear-End

<includeonly>
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<includeonly>
Use with [[Template:Gear-Item]] & [[Template:Gear-End]].
</includeonly>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:08:43Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<nowiki>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}]]|}}
</nowiki>
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:06:53Z

KyTin:

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| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}|}}]]
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|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}|}}]]
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User:KyTin/Gear

2007-11-09T03:06:11Z

KyTin: New page: '''Gear Display Template Information''' Parameters for Gear-Item are Grade (C, B, A, S) Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect) Logo (G, Y, K, T) Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle) Element, Element2, Eleme...

'''Gear Display Template Information'''

Parameters for Gear-Item are
Grade (C, B, A, S)
Name (Crea Saber, Halarod, Ect)
Logo (G, Y, K, T)
Type (Saber, Axe, Rifle)
Element, Element2, Element3, Element4 (Fire, Ice, Light, Ect)
Element-Amount (10%, 20%, Ect)
Grinds (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, Ect)
Stars (1, 2, 3, 4, Ect)
PA (Dark Shot, Foie, Ect)

'''Example'''

<nowiki>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</nowiki>

'''Output'''
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-09T03:05:54Z

KyTin:

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</includeonly>
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|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{{{Element}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element2|}}}|{{{{{Element2}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element3|}}}|{{{{{Element3}}} icon}}|}} {{#if:{{{Element4|}}}|{{{{{Element4}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|[[{{{PA}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA2|}}}|[[{{{PA2}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA3|}}}|[[{{{PA3}}}|}}]] {{#if:{{{PA4|}}}|[[{{{PA4}}}|}}]]
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User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-09T02:49:14Z

KyTin: /* Templates */

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
----
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== Templates ==
* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Try [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template this one]. It should be able to help you out some. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* When I finish up my little Weapon and Armor in use table where should I post the template before adding it to templates when I have the template done. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:41, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** The finished product will go into /Template:Whatever. You will invoke it with {{Whatever}}, adding whatever parameters it needs. There's not really a way to test it without it being in the Template:Whatever location, so there's no real need to upload it somewhere for approval first :P --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 20:44, 8 November 2007 (CST)
*** I have been testing it by putting the full page title User:KyTin/Gear-Start, User:KyTin/Gear-Item, User:KyTin/Gear-End in the template title. But I'll move them there as soon as i finsh it up thanks. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)

User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-09T02:41:24Z

KyTin: /* Templates */

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
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== Templates ==
* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
** Try [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template this one]. It should be able to help you out some. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
* When I finish up my little Weapon and Armor in use table where should I post the template before adding it to templates when I have the template done. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:41, 8 November 2007 (CST)

The re-PSUPedia talk:Manual of style

2007-11-09T02:38:08Z

KyTin: /* Line Shield & Slot Icons */

To help save space and make browsing this page easier, older discussions will be archived [[Manual_of_style_archive | here]].

==Open polls==
There are currently no open polls.

== Mission page proposal ==
* Making this my official proposal for our new mission articles. [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|Behold]]! I do believe I've got everything tweaked just the way I want it. If anyone else has suggestions or ideas of their own for a similar page, please don't keep it to yourself! Create a new page and submit it here; otherwise I'd like to see us get to work on creating mission articles with this template as soon as possible. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:07, 4 November 2007 (CST)
* Holy cow. I love this. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 02:54, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Thanks, Mira! :) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 06:35, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* Glad I could help on it, I still think i like the mission info box with cellspacing set to zero though just so it looks like the wikitable. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 04:10, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* Which is still being used on [[Planet's Scar]] don't know if I made the change on the sandbox or there now that I think about it lol. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 04:14, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Yeah, the infobox's cell spacing finally started to look fine to me. Besides, when it was made to look like the other tables, any text outside of the box ran right up to the side without leaving any space, and I just thought it looked a little sloppy. I still don't know why the text does that on the zero-cell-spaced one. XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 06:35, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* A lot like my old page at http://psupedia.info/User:Au/Sandbox that I never got around to complete or propose or anything. Glad you did! My comments. First, I would like the map pattern info to be on these pages too (could templatize these like the drops and have them both on the rare monster page and on the missions). Second, monster counts are nice too if available. Third, the 'Available ranks' field in the mission info box is not needed since you can get that info from the 'Mission requirements and rewards' section on the same screen, it's duplicate info. Fourth, I think the colors in the mission requirements box are ugly. Red for unavailable ranks is fine but the blue hurts my eyes. Rest looks good!
** Keep in mind that the blue background (likewise, the red) is completely temporary, as the blue will be taken away when the English version of the game receives that particular mission. Just like with the weapon/line shield tables where a currently-Japanese-only item hasn't made its way to us yet. I'd considered adding the spawn charts to the article, but I was afraid I might be throwing too much stuff in there. XD That's why I opted for a link to that particular mission's spawn chart at the top of the page. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:11, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* The running text is a quick fix set cellspacing 0 on the main area then on the subs where the text is set it to 1-3 and problem solved. Let me know if you need any help with that i can show you what it will look like on the one that has it that way still. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 10:38, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Feel free to update that one like that, or if you want, you can copy-paste the code into a sandbox of your own to play around with and show us any adjustments you'd like to make. To be honest, though, I've actually become quite attached to the style I've got now. XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:11, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** The template looks great to me, very readable, useful data when filled in etc. and any improvements can be made over time anyway. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 11:47, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* I've updated my [[Grove of Fanatics]] article to include a (blank) rare spawn chart and to remove a little redundant information. Thoughts? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:48, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Spawn information is exactly one of the things why I would want to look at a mission page, so I like it. One thingy though, I wouldn't name it a 'rare spawn chart' but just 'spawn chart'; all map information is interesting sometimes not just the rare ones. [[User:Au+|Au+]] 12:13, 6 November 2007 (CST)
*** Ah, good point. I'll fix that. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:14, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Perhaps a place for enemy counts would be useful as well. Though I imagine it wouldn't be easy to get the info.[[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 13:30, 6 November 2007 (CST)
*** OK, I've added it to the Grove article. Provided we have people willing to get counts on enemies, it shouldn't be too difficult, but exactly how useful is it? I mean, I can think of an example of wanting a certain item that drops from one enemy, so I'd want to find the mission with the most spawns of that one enemy to increase my chances of it dropping. But, otherwise I don't know. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:01, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* Random thought what about the mission with variable exp such as rainbow beast S2. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:18, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** D: It has variable EXP? I hadn't noticed. Can you elaborate on that for me? ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:20, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** I've never heard of variable EXP - EXP is static and depends on the monster, its level, and whether it has sword/shield/crown/whatever. If, as I'm guessing, you're referring to lower levels getting less EXP - there's actually an EXP penalty for killing monsters 31 levels or more above your level. Kinda stupid if you ask me, that's what level requirements are supposed to be for, but eh. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 15:34, 6 November 2007 (CST)
***We had 6 people in the party running there the level req is 65 i think our party was levels 65-95. We had at least 3 different exp numbers possible more, I guess it could be from the penalty. The monsters there i think are level 100 I think so not sure how the penalty works out 100%. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 16:21, 6 November 2007 (CST)
***Like I said, the penalty applies if the monsters are 31 or more levels above your character (might be 30 actually, I'm not quite sure). Anyone in your party who was level 65-69/70 would receive less EXP from defeating Lv100 monsters than higher levels would, explaining the different EXP numbers. It's a sliding scale as well, a 65 would receive less EXP than a 69 would. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:24, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* OK, so I think I'm just going to go ahead and start implementing the new design into mission pages that we need. I'm going to leave the counts table out, however, until we decide on its necessity or get them all created. If we decide that they would be good to have, we'll just add them in later. I will be leaving much of the EXP/MP/Meseta/drop/spawn info in the tables blank because (01) I'd like to get these templates set up quickly and (02) a lot of this data will be changing in next week's update anyway. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:03, 7 November 2007 (CST)

==Star icons==
* Following on from the previous icon suggestions, since I have AoI and should be able to do it - instead of something like {{10 stars}} would it be better to take images directly from the game and use them for the star rarities? I find that a better idea because the 10-12* and 13-15* colours in particular do not go well with a white background. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:16, 4 October 2007 (BST)
** The stars taken from the game take up a lot more space; and might also prove to be tricky to get right since they're anti-aliased. We may be better off with hand-drawn stars; could just grab the ones we have now and draw a black border around them or so. [[User:Au+|Au+]] 18:37, 4 October 2007 (BST)
*** Black borders sound ugleh. How well do the game rips shrink? That definitely sound preferable if done right. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:49, 4 October 2007 (BST)
* Hey, Mewn? Let's give it a shot. When you get a chance, could you upload one star of each color? We can turn them into templates to see how they look and go from there. ;) - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 13:03, 4 November 2007 (CST)
* Thanks to Mewn, we now have our new batch of star icons. (See [[Alteratsu Cauda]] for an example of their use.) Anyone have any objections to templatizing them and putting them to use across the site? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:08, 4 November 2007 (CST)
* Seems like there are no real objections. I'll do the templates. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 15:35, 5 November 2007 (CST)
* I know this is a little late but if anyone is interested I'll try my hand at making a set of star icons that match the rips as closely as possible.[[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 00:47, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** Here is what I came up with. [[Image:ExampleStars.png]] Each star is currently 18px square. Let me know if there are any changes to be made. I made the background transparent so we don't get the grey background. If you like them, I'll split them into separate star graphics for each color. On another somewhat related note, I was thinking about trying to get the 13-15 stars to animate similarly to the way the do in the game (of course I haven't actually seen what that looks like). Any thoughts on that? [[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 03:27, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** I updated the star graphic so they are 16px square. Let me know if they look okay.[[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 14:23, 6 November 2007 (CST)
*** Perfect! - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:28, 6 November 2007 (CST)
** I uploaded the final versions of the stars. I did one star per file so we can assemble them using templates.[[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 14:12, 7 November 2007 (CST)
*** Thanks! They've been templatized. :D - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:35, 7 November 2007 (CST)
* I can't say I'm a fan of rectangular grey blocks. Otherwise, lookin' fine. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 02:53, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* Excellent, Propagandist! Love the idea of the stars from 13-15 being animated, too. ;) The only suggestion I can make would be to maybe scale these down just a little bit, probably to about the size of the stars we're using now. The images now are 18px tall, but when I cropped them, I left 1px of gray space on all sides, so the stars are only 16px tall. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 06:32, 6 November 2007 (CST)
* They do look really good. I wanted to get rid of the grey background myself but I don't really have the talent to do it, not being particularly graphics-savvy. The idea of the 13th-15th stars being animated is cool as well, from memory they glow from a golden-browny colour to light cream (almost white), but it might be better to wait until AoI is released so you can see for yourself. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 11:43, 6 November 2007 (CST)

==Element colours==
* Similar to below suggestion, why not standardise element colour (where necessary, if anywhere) to that of the colour used in the weapon palette, PA menu, etc.? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 08:39, 29 September 2007 (BST)
** Agreed. I'll work on that after while (going to work with the weapons icons first), and we can keep adjusting things where necessary until we have the set of colors we like best. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 04:49, 30 September 2007 (BST)
*** It doesn't help the wiki any, really, but if the white part of all the weapon icons was made transparent, people could use cellpadding=0 and a background color in a table to display a weapon of a particular element. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 07:45, 1 October 2007 (BST)

==Weapon icons==
* What do you guys think about using the in-game icons for weapon categories in the weapon stats tables instead of the typed out name? I figure in the cases of names like ''double saber'' and ''grenade'', it would greatly reduce the amount that the first column is stretched out (as well as get rid of any double spaced cells). We could always do vector drawings of the icons, or just get nice shots of them from the game itself. Or, we could just use the ones SonicTeam put up on their new ''PSU'' site. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 19:00, 28 September 2007 (BST)
* That sounds good to me. The icons are generally easy enough to recognize. Can images be made to link to articles? If they can't, that would present a problem, but otherwise I'm fine with it. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 00:13, 29 September 2007 (BST)
** I'm fairly certain that we can make images link to other articles. I'll look into it. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 04:50, 30 September 2007 (BST)
** Sounds like a very good idea. I actually intended to do this at some point, but then forgot. I see no reason why pictures from the game would not work. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 00:18, 29 September 2007 (BST)

==Enemy page template==
* I'm happy with the [[User:Mewn/Monster_Template|enemy template]] now, so I'd like to propose it formally. If there's to be a vote, I'll let Espio handle it, heheh. Anyway, final discussion, opinions, any tulips and/or roses, etc. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 18:12, 14 September 2007 (BST)
** Looks good to me; I could only suggest minor tweaks, such as the use of icons in place of ''leader boosts'', ''shoe boosts'' and the like in the ''boosts'' column. I think we actually already have the appropriate icons for those somewhere on the site. If anyone suggests a unique alternate proposal, we'll put things to a vote. Otherwise, I think we should go with this and make any minor changes if necessary. Objections from anyone? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 19:40, 14 September 2007 (BST)
* That can be easily done. I'll change the icons now. Seems better than 'shoe boosts' which has never seemed right to me anyway. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 20:15, 14 September 2007 (BST)
** Sweet. That looks great! :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 20:25, 14 September 2007 (BST)

* Ok, if there are no more comments, or objections or suggestions or whatever, by the time I check this site tomorrow morning (probably about 11AM GMT), I feel it should become the template as I'd like to start making a few articles with it. Alkaven is working on a few templates that seem fine so far, so hopefully we'll be able to use them (and if they aren't ready, it can always be implemented a bit later). - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 21:48, 15 September 2007 (BST)

==Unit page template==
* After Alkaven started a new page for [[Cara / Force]], I remembered that we hadn't finalized a standard template for the unit pages. There was discussion going on, but that kind of trailed off. So, let's finish this off, right? I'm going to start a poll with the two formats we have ([[Orpad / Guard |this one]] and [[Cara / Mind |this one]]), but if anyone else has any other designs in mind, please let us know. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:33, 11 September 2007 (BST)

==Slight modifications to the weapon template?==
* There was mention a while back about a few minor things on the weapon template that might be altered. I can't seem to find where it was, however. Anyway, one thing I was wondering about is the drop box. In the Deva-zashi template given on our example page, ''monter'' is used, when, well... not everything these items can drop from should be classified as such. (I believe I brought up the example of there being newman, beast and CAST enemies in-game that aren't exactly monsters since they aren't infected by the SEED-Virus or something. They're simply acting out of their own zeal and free will.) Anyway, I'd like to suggest changing ''monster'' to ''enemy''. I've actually already done that with the weapon pages I've created, but if we decide to keep it as ''monster'', I'll change them back myself. I know this is ridiculously minor, but I felt it needed to be mentioned. <_<; [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:40, 8 September 2007 (BST)
** Said beforehand that I thought "enemy" was more fitting, and I still hold to this view. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:01, 9 September 2007 (BST)
*** Sweet. So, I guess no objections on this? ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 17:41, 12 September 2007 (BST)

==New line shield table proposal==
* [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox/Line_shields | Here]] is my proposal for a new line shield table. I took out a number of columns that I felt were unnecessary, such as the element (for ones that can only be a specific element, this can be detailed in individual articles) and the ''Att'', ''Acc'' and ''Tech'' columns, which can also be detailed in individual articles. (I guess these are the "hidden" stats from set bonuses and line shields made for specific battle types?) Thoughts? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 04:19, 7 September 2007 (BST)
** Erm... anyone? <_<; [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 06:24, 8 September 2007 (BST)
*** Personally I consider the element - both NPC and synth limitation - to be one of the defining characteristics of a Line Shield. The Att./Acc./Tech. values not so much, but still directly useful information when looking up a table of Line Shields. I do however like the condensing of slots a lot! As for the comments, I believe set bonuses (with link - nice one) and Type limitations should be the focus, but not drop locations for every other shield that "might not be easy to find". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 11:30, 8 September 2007 (BST)
*** I have to agree with Mira on the element, it's an important part of the data. I too like the way you've done the Slots. The stuff such as bonuses to Att and Acc can be detailed in the Comments column. Other than that I think it looks better than the current table. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:35, 8 September 2007 (BST)
**** OK, check out my second table. I added the element column back in (also created temporary templates for each element color -- we can fine-tune the actual colors later). What I'm going for is using the neutral green to identify a line shield that can be synthesized with any element you want. Any line shields that can only be one specific element will have that element listed. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:38, 8 September 2007 (BST)
**** That looks fine to me, certainly less cluttered than the other table. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 18:33, 8 September 2007 (BST)
***** "What I'm going for is using the neutral green to identify a line shield that can be synthesized with any element you want." -- Actually, that was already the case. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:59, 8 September 2007 (BST)
****** Oh, heh. >_>; [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:12, 9 September 2007 (BST)
******* Not sure what your line (no pun intended) of reasoning was, but mine was that only non-limited shields were '''capable''' of being green. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 02:51, 11 September 2007 (BST)
******** Yup, that was it. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 03:11, 11 September 2007 (BST)

==Weapon Type Names==
* No objection, but just to clarify - Mewn's renaming of "Bows" to "Longbows" and "Grenade Launchers" to "Grenades" :| is to fit in with the weapon types listed at the "License" missions, right? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:38, 4 September 2007 (BST)
* Yes, you're right. I feel we should maintain some consistency, and Throwing Blades already got renamed to Cards by Espio half a month ago. I suppose I should point out that the Bullet License missions uses both 'Longbow' and 'Long Bow', but since I've never seen it spelled with a space, I assumed the former was the correct term and the latter was a typo. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 23:57, 4 September 2007 (BST)
* Works for me. :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 04:19, 7 September 2007 (BST)

==Misc. item tables==
* I've been [http://psupedia.info/My_Room_Accessories#Remodeling_tickets playing around] with what our possible template for non-stat-based items could look like. Just like with the weapon tables, I've categorized each remodeling ticket by its star rating, followed by name. The next column lists prices, which is more or less filler. Same thing goes with the description column. The version column is needed since we already know that there will be ''AotI''-exclusive tickets. The comments column I kept and used just like with the weapons. Personally, I'd like to stick with keeping information like the item description and price within individual item pages, but without that stuff in this table, everything looks so thin and bare. Any ideas? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:37, 25 August 2007 (BST)

==Capitalization==
* I'd like to get a little discussion going on [http://psupedia.info/Manual_of_Style#Capitalization_.28pending.29 this subject]. While I've listed most "odd" instances of capitalization in-game (''TECHNICs'', ''CASTs'', ''GUARDIANS Colony'', etc.), I think we should talk about how we'll capitalize things like healing item names (should they be considered proper nouns?). Thoughts, opinions? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 17:17, 21 August 2007 (BST)
** I think item names should be capitalized as proper nouns, if for no other reason than it looks better to me. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 17:34, 21 August 2007 (BST)
*** I've been torn between both sides for a while, but after looking at how odd things like ''scape doll'' and ''moon atomizer'' look without capitals, I've found myself leaning more toward considering them proper nouns. Of course, I still think that individual item categories (recovery items, shotguns, line shields, etc.) should not be considered proper, and thus should not be capitalized. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 18:48, 21 August 2007 (BST)
* On the recent capitalization swapping of the line shield and photon arts sections, I think it should be pointed out that both are considered standard nouns in-game, so no special capitalization is required. For example, check out the line shield descriptions. You'll see "a mass-produced ''line shield''" or "a super high-end, custom-made ''line shield''" (man, they really like their hyphenated words). On photon arts, I'm fairly certain that the menus do not capitalize the word, but I'll have to double-check that next time I play. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 18:01, 8 September 2007 (BST)
** I originally decapitalised Line Shields to Line shields, and Mewn changed Photon Arts to Photon arts, but you will find numerous places - particularly the manual - that deliberately capitalise both. The same applies to Photon Fortune, by the way. You are right though - the game does not capitalise it in that menu, but AFAIK all menus are "first letter is capital, all the rest are lower" so I'll question the weight of that. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:04, 9 September 2007 (BST)
*** Heh, it's times like these that I wish English were like Japanese with not having to deal with capitalization. Either that, or SEGA had been consistent with it. XD Anyway, I just checked the in-game tutorial, and it recognizes photon arts as a standard noun with no special caps. o_o [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:20, 9 September 2007 (BST)

==Unit tables==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! Tech. !! Ment. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| {{Color-C}} rowspan="2" | 1★
| [[Cara / Force]] || {{Logo-Y}} || 20 || 0 || {{PSU version}} || --
|-
| [[Cara / Mind]] || {{Logo-Y}} || 0 || 10 || {{PSU version}} || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! Tech. !! Ment. !! Ver. !! Comments
|- {{JP item}}
| {{Color-B}} | 6★
| [[Te / Force S]] || {{Logo-Y}} || 100 || -50 || {{PSU version}} || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! Tech. !! Ment. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| {{Color-A}} | 9★
| [[Te / TECH PP Save]] || {{Logo-Y}} || -30 || 0 || {{PSU version}} || Lowers PP usage and TP.
|}

This is the general idea for unit tables. Of course, we'll swap out ''Tech'' and ''Ment'' with ''Att'', ''Acc'', ''Def'', ''Eva'' and ''End'' where applicable. Anything else we should add? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 03:07, 18 August 2007 (BST)

Just wanted to add that I've done the initial conversion of the tables for both online and offline. You can find it [[User:Propagandist/Sandbox/Units|here]], I'll keep it updated with any suggestions/changes until the format is finalized. [[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 04:56, 18 August 2007 (BST)
*Excellent work! :D Two things. First, a few of the offline S-rank units are identified with the A-rank green. Minor, I know. ;) Second, in a few of the comments sections, it might look better with commas or semicolons separating two descriptions (Hard / Power Charge, for example). Or maybe line breaks. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:06, 18 August 2007 (BST)
**Thanks, I wasn't able to check on those as I was at work. Now that I'm home, I'll go through and double check all of the units to make sure it's accurate. I've also a few ideas for the comments that I want to try out. I'll note any major updates on this talk page. [[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 05:45, 18 August 2007 (BST)
*** So, how we doing on this? The adjustments you've made look great, and really, the only other thing I can suggest just has to do with capitalization of a few things in the "comments" column. To be honest, I think we're ready for approval and all. :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 17:23, 8 September 2007 (BST)
****It's essentially done, I'm not entirely sure all of the units are accurate but that can be cleared up when it is put out on the main page I guess. Let me know and I'll put it up (of course, you can do that too I guess).[[User:Propagandist|Propagandist]] 23:05, 8 September 2007 (BST)
***** On the Te / TECH PP Save example above, don't we know how much it lowers the PP usage? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:05, 9 September 2007 (BST)
****** Yeah, it's actually included in Prop's tables. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:30, 9 September 2007 (BST)

==Mission info articles==
[http://psupedia.info/SEED_Awakened This] is what I have in mind for individual mission articles. Of course, fill in the enemy and drop sections with actual information. Opinions? Suggestions? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:08, 17 August 2007 (BST)
* I suggest an infobox (à la Wikipedia) to the side showing at least the following things:
** Mission name (maybe JP name as well, since there is a large difference between the two in many cases)
** Start Counter
** Destination
** Area(s) that the mission takes place in (e.g. Mad Creatures takes place in Raffon Meadow, Mad Beasts in Raffon Lakeshore etc.)
** Type of mission (Free, Story, Co-Op, Party, Event)
** Available ranks
** Elements represented in the mission. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 12:03, 17 August 2007 (BST)
I'll see if I can take a shot at making a design like this when I have a chance. (Sometimes tables just don't come out like I want, though, so no promises. XD) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 03:36, 18 August 2007 (BST)
* I'm for Mewn's idea. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:06, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Guess it wouldn't hurt to get this going again. Gentlemen, behold! [[Planet's Scar]] D: That's the basic idea; of course enemy info will have to be added; drop tables and all that, too. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:43, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
* OK, so [[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|how's this]]? - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 11:19, 4 November 2007 (CST)

==Synthesis board suggestion==
(Copied from the scape doll talk page.) I really hate questioning something that we're trying to set as a standard, but I think this might be a valid point. While working on the scape doll's board info, I realized that the rarity of the board and the rarity of the item are different. While I don't think this is a common occurrence, I think we should address it before we begin a mass implementation of synth board tables, especially since the board rarity is never mentioned anywhere. I suggest changing the title of the table to the board name and then changing the current board name cell to indicate rarity. Like so:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#e8e8e8"| '''[B] Scape Doll'''
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Food''' || [[Hustle Berry]] x5 || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Chemical''' || [[Omega Acid]] x2
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Uses''' || 1 || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Base Rate''' || 100%
|-style="background:#f9f9f9"
| style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''Synth Time''' || 00:00 || style="background:#f2f2f2" | '''[B] Rarity''' || {{Color-A}}|7★
|}

I think we should do this, unless we're going to make individual pages for each board. Actually, that's something else. Should we do that, or just make a synth board redirect to the page of the item it creates? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 18:40, 13 August 2007 (BST)

I'd be all for individual pages for boards, but the simplicity of putting board and item on one page is clear to me as well. --[[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 23:17, 13 August 2007 (BST)

* I have to admit, I'm not much a fan of this style. Why?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4"|Title goes here
|- style="background:#fbb"
| Material 1 || Material 2
|- style="background:#fbb"
| Material 3 || Material 4
|- style="background:#8ff"
| Synth Detail 1 || Synth Detail 2
|- style="background:#8ff"
| Synth Detail 3 || Synth Detail 4
|}

: Seems a very strange way of arranging it to me, and not particularly conductive to finding out the desired information on a synthesis quickly. Additionally, there's a lot of "<nowiki>style="background:sixcharacters"</nowiki>" expressions in there which - while easily eliminated by a template - would surely be better off made header cells (start with ! instead of | ) and then just make the "title" cell darker manually.

: If I may pitch in a couple of ideas:

{|
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|- style="background:#ddd"
| colspan=5| '''Horizontal Item'''
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Details
! width=80|[B] Needed || width=80|[B] Uses || width=80|Synth Time || width=80|Base Rate
|-
| [B] Item || x || 0hrs || 100%
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Materials
! Photon || Ore || Metal || Wood
|-
| <photon> || <ore> || <metal> || <wood>
|}
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|- style="background:#ddd"
| colspan=4| '''Vertical Item'''
|- style="background:#e8e8e8"
| colspan=2|'''Details''' || colspan=2|'''Materials'''
|-
! width=80|[B] Needed
| width=80|[B] Item
! width=80|Photon
| width=80|<photon>
|-
! [B] Uses
| x
! Ore
| <ore>
|-
! Synth Time
| 0hrs
! Metal
| <metal>
|-
! Base Rate
| 100%
! Wood
| <wood>
|}
|
|}

: Actually, the code for the second one isn't edit-friendly at all. But some might prefer the look so I'll leave it there. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:07, 14 August 2007 (BST)
**I like how the vertical version looks. One problem, though: what to do with the empty cells for boards that have less than four materials? Also, I still favor the idea of keeping the title of the table the name of the board it's about. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:24, 14 August 2007 (BST)
* I do too, come to think of it.
: The "number of materials" thing could do with exploration. By nature, all weapons require four (Photons, Ores, Metals, Wood) and some line shields require four (Photons, Ores, Materials, sometimes event drops). Then there are Food and Item boards which take two (Natural Materials, Chemicals), Decoration boards which take two (Special Materials, Wood) and finally Grinder / Material Upgrade boards which use just one (Grinder bases and the materials, respectively).
: It's the last two that bother me, since those won't fit into the "vertical with oddly-grouped" setup either. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:35, 14 August 2007 (BST)
**We could always take the route of unique tables for each type of synthesis board, but do what we can to make them all have the same general feel. Maybe? I'll give some more thought to it to see if I can come up with another design. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 19:10, 14 August 2007 (BST)
** Having come back to this after a couple of weeks, the answer seems pretty simple: Given that Line Shields sometimes have an "event" material (the field for which could be left blank for the rest), all synthesis categories require either 1 (Grinders), 2 (Decos, Items, Food) or 4 (Weapons, Line Shields) materials. This is very friendly to the "Horizontal Item" layout above as 4 is divisible by 1, 2 and 4 hence colspan would work nicely. Observe:

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|- style="background:#ddd"
| colspan=5| '''Sori-senba'''
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Details
! [B] Needed || [B] Uses || Synth Time || Base Rate
|-
| [B] Sori-senba || 3 || 8h || 1%
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Materials
! Photon || Ore || Material || Event
|-
| Ray-photon x15 || Vestaline x25 || Ortaresin x35 || <none>
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|- style="background:#ddd"
| colspan=5| '''Monomate'''
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Details
! [B] Needed || [B] Uses || Synth Time || Base Rate
|-
| [B] Monomate || 20 || 0h || 100%
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Materials
! colspan=2| Natural || colspan=2| Chemical
|-
| colspan=2| Sweet Berry || colspan=2| Trans Acid
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|- style="background:#ddd"
| colspan=5| '''Airboard'''
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Details
! [B] Needed || [B] Uses || Synth Time || Base Rate
|-
| [B] Parum Souvenir || 1 || 15m || 60%
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#e8e8e8"| Materials
! colspan=4| Ingredient
|-
| colspan=4| Par Ash x20
|}

* Just keeping the ideas going. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 03:10, 11 September 2007 (BST)
** That does work very nicely. I like it! Perhaps ''details'' and ''materials'' could be put in bold, however. I think that might look even better. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 03:22, 11 September 2007 (BST)
*** ...agreed. They actually are in that vertical table. I missed it in the first horizontal table though, and the following examples carried that mistake down ^^ - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:54, 11 September 2007 (BST)

== Line Shield & Slot Icons ==
* Maybe they are here but i cannot find them if not though I hope a PC user will be willing to help with this as i cannot take screen shots. Can someone make icons for the Line Shields, Head Slots, Arm Slots, Body Slots & Extra Slots? Should be a hard task with a good screen shot and would be a nice touch for drop charts among other things. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 14:53, 7 November 2007 (CST)
** I was planning on doing this eventually, actually. :) I'd like to use the slot icons in the line shield chart instead of H, A, B and E. Also, I'd planned on using the line shield icon in each line shield article's stat box, just so it doesn't stretch the table out when "line shield" is broken into two lines. I'm at work right now, so I don't have a way to take screens, but when I get home (won't be until much, much later tonight, however), I can put together the icons if I have time. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 14:59, 7 November 2007 (CST)
*** Cool, sure they will be put to a lot of use if i can help let me know. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:13, 7 November 2007 (CST)
*** Looks good to me [[Dulk-senba]], anyone mind if we template the icon. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 20:38, 8 November 2007 (CST)

==Closed polls==
Please see [[Manual_of_style_archive | this page]] for the archive of closed polls.

===Unit article template===
Please cast your vote on which of the following designs you prefer for individual unit articles. Voting will be open until 12:00a.m. CST Tuesday, September 18. Also, if you have a design of your own, please feel free to submit it for voting. When casting your vote, remember to highlight your choice in bold print and follow it up with your signature.

:[[Orpad / Guard|Proposal #1]]
:[[Cara / Mind|Proposal #2]]

* '''Proposal #2''' - Basically, it's the same thing as the first proposal, however open space has been condensed in the stats table (at the suggestion of Beatrix) and the redundant ''unit'' descriptor in the pricing table has been removed. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 00:39, 11 September 2007 (BST)
* '''Proposal #2''' - Definitely. I was more than half asleep when I made the Orpad/Guard one. --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 00:42, 11 September 2007 (BST)
* '''Proposal #2''' - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 01:05, 11 September 2007 (BST)
* '''Proposal #2:''' - This is a bit of a joke. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 02:50, 11 September 2007 (BST)
** Heh, well I just wanted to make it official. Also, it leaves the floor open for suggestions. Of course, whether or not we see anything else is a different story. To be honest, though, maybe a vote isn't necessary on all aspects of standardization. Perhaps just the ones where multiple, independently unique ideas are presented should be voted on? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 03:10, 11 September 2007 (BST)
** Neither of these are complete templates if they don't offer all of the possible fields. Unless you are just talking about how it should look and not creating an actual template (potentially for each type of unit), these won't work because they don't have fields for each of the possible boosts (END/ATA/ATP/EVA/DFP/TECH/MENT). --[[User:JustTrio|JustTrio]] 15:15, 14 September 2007 (BST)
** I doubt these are actual templates in the sense of there being a Template:Unit or whatever. It's just how it should look, and manually editing it for the appropriate stat boosts is easy, and better than having every stat for every unit when clearly individual units don't boost even half of them. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 15:22, 14 September 2007 (BST)
*** Exactly. Each type of unit will have the appropriate fields in its article. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 15:37, 14 September 2007 (BST)
* '''Proposal #2''' - Any reason we aren't creating templates any more? --[[User:JustTrio|JustTrio]] 11:18, 16 September 2007 (BST)
** There's no reason we can't, as can be seen by the recently created enemy profile template. It would be a great time-saver. Personally, I just need to learn how to make the larger templates. XD [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 16:21, 16 September 2007 (BST)
* With the close of the poll, proposal #2 is the new standard. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:14, 18 September 2007 (BST)

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-09T00:01:21Z

KyTin: okay now i wont be touching it for an hour lol

<includeonly>|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{Element}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|{{{PA}}}|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{Element}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|{{{PA}}}|}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Start

2007-11-09T00:00:13Z

KyTin: fixing gap in PA box

<includeonly>
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art</includeonly>
<noinclude>
* Start of the gear template which will be 3 templates for easier end-user use. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Start

2007-11-08T23:59:33Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art

</includeonly>
<noinclude>
* Start of the gear template which will be 3 templates for easier end-user use. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:58:52Z

KyTin: added if statments will not be updating this anymore for a hour or so

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{Element}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|{{{PA}}}|}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Type|}}}|{{{{{Type}}} icon}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element|}}}|{{{Element}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Element-Amount|}}}|{{{Element-Amount}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Grinds|}}}|{{{Grinds}}}|}} || {{#if:{{{Stars|}}}|{{{{{Stars}}} stars}}|}} || {{#if:{{{PA|}}}|{{{PA}}}|}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin

2007-11-08T23:55:07Z

KyTin: /* Gear */ template test

{{User:KyTin/360 Only}}

==Characters==
[[Image:KyTin-Lenneth-0001.jpg|thumb| Left to right, Lenneth, KyTin Ovrok.]]
{{Character Profile
|name= KyTin Ovrok |race= Newmen |gender= ♂ |level= 88 |type= Wartecher |HU= 3 |RA= 5 |FO= 10 |FI= 0 |GT= 2 |WT= 10 |FF= 0 |FG= 0 |FT= 5 |PT= 0
|name2= Leviticus |race2= Cast |gender2= ♂ |level2= 27 |type2= Guntecher |HU2= 0 |RA2= 5 |FO2= 3 |FI2= 0 |GT2= 3 |WT2= 0 |FF2= 0 |FG2= 0 |FT2= 0 |PT2= 0
|name3= Kael Ritter |race3= Human |gender3= ♂ |level3= 14 |type3= Guntecher |HU3= 0 |RA3= 5 |FO3= 4 |FI3= 0 |GT3= 1 |WT3= 0 |FF3= 0 |FG3= 0 |FT3= 0 |PT3= 0
}}

==Gear==
'''KyTin Ovrok'''
WT/FT/AT Gear
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Light}} || 16% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Light}} || 10% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} ||{{Dagger icon}} || {{Dark}} || 16% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 2 || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Lidra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 6* || {{8 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 2 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 1 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Rabol Lebfa]] || {{Logo-T}} || || {{Dark}} || 10% || || {{10 stars}} ||
|- {{Color-B}}
| [[Tero / All Save]] || {{Logo-G}} || || {{Neutral}} || || || {{6 stars}} ||
|- {{Color-B}}
| [[Me / Quick]] || {{Logo-Y}} || || {{Neutral}} || || || {{4 stars}} ||
|-
|}

'''Kael Ritter'''
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|-
|}
<pre>* Grinds where preformed by my self.</pre>
<pre>Experiments with Templating the above.</pre>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7|Logo=G}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}

==Userful Links==
[[Rare monsters|Rare Map Guide]]

[[Required Experience by Level|Experience Required to Level]]

[[1Up Platinum Cup|1Up Platinum Cup Drop Charts Ect]]

[[Ambition of the Illuminus]]

[[Changes in Ambition of the Illuminus]]

==Saved Articles & Debates==

[[User_talk:KyTin/Guilds_Debate|Guilds Debate]]

==Project==
[[User:KyTin/360 only| Xbox 360 Only Template]]

[[Planet's Scar|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template]]

[[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template - Sandbox]]

==Related==
[[User:Lenneth|Lenneth]]

[[User:JaceX|Jacex]]

[[User:KyTin/Forgotten Knights Guild|The Forgotten Knights Guild]]

==Armor==
[[Line Shields|Line Shields List & Stats]]

[[Units|Shield Units List & Stats]]

==Weapons==
{{Weapons}}

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:54:05Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo|}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:52:19Z

KyTin: sorry, missing :

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if:{{{Logo}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:51:01Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if{{{Logo}}}|{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}|}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:50:03Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{#if{{{Logo}}}{{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin

2007-11-08T23:39:21Z

KyTin: /* Gear */

{{User:KyTin/360 Only}}

==Characters==
[[Image:KyTin-Lenneth-0001.jpg|thumb| Left to right, Lenneth, KyTin Ovrok.]]
{{Character Profile
|name= KyTin Ovrok |race= Newmen |gender= ♂ |level= 88 |type= Wartecher |HU= 3 |RA= 5 |FO= 10 |FI= 0 |GT= 2 |WT= 10 |FF= 0 |FG= 0 |FT= 5 |PT= 0
|name2= Leviticus |race2= Cast |gender2= ♂ |level2= 27 |type2= Guntecher |HU2= 0 |RA2= 5 |FO2= 3 |FI2= 0 |GT2= 3 |WT2= 0 |FF2= 0 |FG2= 0 |FT2= 0 |PT2= 0
|name3= Kael Ritter |race3= Human |gender3= ♂ |level3= 14 |type3= Guntecher |HU3= 0 |RA3= 5 |FO3= 4 |FI3= 0 |GT3= 1 |WT3= 0 |FF3= 0 |FG3= 0 |FT3= 0 |PT3= 0
}}

==Gear==
'''KyTin Ovrok'''
WT/FT/AT Gear
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Light}} || 16% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Light}} || 10% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} ||{{Dagger icon}} || {{Dark}} || 16% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 2 || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Lidra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 6* || {{8 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 2 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Mira-kikami]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Card icon}} || {{Neutral}} || || 1 || {{9 stars}} || [[Masei-shiki]]
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Rabol Lebfa]] || {{Logo-T}} || || {{Dark}} || 10% || || {{10 stars}} ||
|- {{Color-B}}
| [[Tero / All Save]] || {{Logo-G}} || || {{Neutral}} || || || {{6 stars}} ||
|- {{Color-B}}
| [[Me / Quick]] || {{Logo-Y}} || || {{Neutral}} || || || {{4 stars}} ||
|-
|}

'''Kael Ritter'''
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-C}}
| [[Compadri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 6* || {{3 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|-
|}
<pre>* Grinds where preformed by my self.</pre>
<pre>Experiments with Templating the above.</pre>
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-Item |Name=Creasaber|Grade=A|Type=Saber|Stars=7}}
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}

==Userful Links==
[[Rare monsters|Rare Map Guide]]

[[Required Experience by Level|Experience Required to Level]]

[[1Up Platinum Cup|1Up Platinum Cup Drop Charts Ect]]

[[Ambition of the Illuminus]]

[[Changes in Ambition of the Illuminus]]

==Saved Articles & Debates==

[[User_talk:KyTin/Guilds_Debate|Guilds Debate]]

==Project==
[[User:KyTin/360 only| Xbox 360 Only Template]]

[[Planet's Scar|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template]]

[[User:EspioKaos/Sandbox|Planet's Scar - Mission Page Template - Sandbox]]

==Related==
[[User:Lenneth|Lenneth]]

[[User:JaceX|Jacex]]

[[User:KyTin/Forgotten Knights Guild|The Forgotten Knights Guild]]

==Armor==
[[Line Shields|Line Shields List & Stats]]

[[Units|Shield Units List & Stats]]

==Weapons==
{{Weapons}}

User:KyTin/Gear-Item

2007-11-08T23:37:24Z

KyTin: New page: <includeonly> |- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}} | {{{Name}}} || {{{Logo}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{Stars}}} || {{{PA}}} </includeo...

<includeonly>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{{Logo}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{Stars}}} || {{{PA}}}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<pre>
|- {{Color-{{{Grade}}}}}
| [[{{{Name}}}]] || {{Logo-{{{Logo}}}}} || {{{{{Type}}} icon}} || {{{Element}}} || {{{Element-Amount}}} || {{{Grinds}}} || {{{{{Stars}}} stars}} || {{{PA}}}
</pre>

{{User:KyTin/Gear-Start}}
|- {{Color-S}}
| [[Uransara]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Fire}} {{Light}} || || || {{10 stars}} || [[Foie]], [[Resta]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Shiratsuno-zashi]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Dagger icon}} || {{Fire}} || 12% || 4* || {{9 stars}} || [[Hikai Shuha-zan]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Ulteri]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Longbow icon}} || {{Light}} || 19% || 3 || {{9 stars}} || [[Yousei-sou]]
|- {{Color-A}}
| [[Majimra]] || {{Logo-Y}} || {{Wand icon}} || {{Light}} {{Dark}} || || 3* || {{9 stars}} || [[Giresta]], [[Megistar]]
{{User:KyTin/Gear-End}}
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-End

2007-11-08T23:32:19Z

KyTin:

<includeonly>
|-
|}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
* End on gear template, will make the Gear-Item template soon which will add rows to gear tables. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)
</noinclude>

User:KyTin/Gear-End

2007-11-08T23:16:15Z

KyTin: New page: <includeonly> |- |} </includeonly> <noinclude> * End on gear template, will make the Gear-Item template soon which will add rows to gear tables. -- ~~~~

<includeonly>
|-
|}
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
* End on gear template, will make the Gear-Item template soon which will add rows to gear tables. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:16, 8 November 2007 (CST)

User:KyTin/Gear-Start

2007-11-08T23:14:24Z

KyTin: New page: <includeonly> {| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;" ! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="wid...

<includeonly>
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name !! style="width:100px;" | Manufacturer !! style="width:45px;" | Type !! colspan="2" style="width:75px;" | Element !! style="width:50x;" | Grinds !! style="width:200px;" | Stars !! style="width:125px;" | Photon Art
</includeonly>
<noinclude>
* Start of the gear template which will be 3 templates for easier end-user use. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 17:14, 8 November 2007 (CST)
</noinclude>

User talk:EspioKaos

2007-11-08T21:08:12Z

KyTin: Templates

== JP Magazine Scans ==
* Came across [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6236.jpg this] and [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu6235.jpg this] while browsing the JP image uploader. Since I can't really read Japanese bar katakana I have no idea if this stuff is new info or not, so you might want to look over it if you haven't done so already. If you have, disregard this. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (BST)
** Hmm, most of it seems to be stuff we already knew about, but in some cases with a little new tidbit thrown in for good measure. For example, it mentions that no new blast badges will be added with ''Illuminus'', however positive status effects will remain on a player during nanoblast (and SUV summoning, for that matter). So this we already knew. It goes on to say that during a nanoblast, beasts will not be susceptible to negative status effects. It's odd that they mention that, because I thought it was that way right now. I think incapacitation is all that can get you, but... the article doesn't point that one out specifically. It just says "enemy-inflicted abnormal status effects." One very interesting thing that is mentioned in the second article is that it's being considered that Protransers may gain the ability to see traps without goggles. Other things the articles go into include changing the drop system around to allow for random elemental attributes on dropped weapons and also a reminder that your personal nanotransformer's space will not be increased, but that you'll be able to increase your PM's space and transport items from your inventory in the lobbies back to your room. So, I guess the only new thing was the Protranser bit. But, it's very interesting. Thanks for pointing these out to me! :) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 05:08, 10 September 2007 (BST)

== Room Decoration pages ==
* I noticed that you started some work on the room decos (by the by, I'd like to thank you for the work you've been doing recently) - if you need images, I have images of pretty much every room decoration in the game on my file dump [http://mewn.psupedia.info/PSU/roomgoods/ here]. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
**My pleasure. :) I'd forgotten about those! Thanks! I'll be able to put them to good use. ;) [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:23, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==Throwing Blades / Cards==
* Wait, what? The game actually calls them under the unified name "throwing blades" in the English version. "Cards" is only used in JP. They were thus standardised as TBs on PSUPedia months ago for that reason. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 21:59, 15 August 2007 (BST)
** Which was stupid, in my opinion. We might as well rename [[Sabers]] as [[Single Handed Blades]]. '''Nobody''' calls them "throwing blades." --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 23:07, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*** Ah, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one. But, Qwerty has a point with the single-handed blade thing. Same would apply to double sabers as double blades and rods as long staves since their weapon description windows all refer to them as such. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:22, 15 August 2007 (BST)
**** By the "named after the lowest model" rule that we abide by for every other weapon (save non-GRM weapons, which go by the description/license mission name, which for "Card" '''is''' Throwing Blade by the way...), they would be "Kikamis". - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:35, 15 August 2007 (BST)
***** Point. But does that mean that we'll change the name of the weapon in question to ''Card Fante'' when ''Ambition of the Illuminus'' comes out? After all, that'll be the base GRM model of this weapon. I never expected this to turn into such a big deal, and I apologize for that again, but I guess better out than in, right? [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:38, 15 August 2007 (BST)
****** A vote would certainly see this change to Cards, so it's probably best to change it to that '''for now'''. AotI's release and the lowest GRM card should change it though, by the unwritten "lowest GRM" rule everyone uses. On a similar note, AotI will also change "Rods", as there will be a 1* GRM version released, and it '''cannot''' call that "Rod" because that's the 1* Yohmei model! - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:47, 15 August 2007 (BST)
*******I've been very curious about that last one. I doubt that they'll change the entire series of rods we have now to Rodoh, Mayrodoh, Halarodoh, etc. (though, I would actually prefer that!). I kind of have the feeling they might just call this new rod something like ''Rod (GRM)''. But hey, they could surprise us all. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 23:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
******** For the record, they can't call it [[Staff]] as that's the name of a 2* GRM wand, confusingly. It's possible they'll rename only the 1* Yohmei to Rodoh, but my suspiscion remains that we'll finally get a name for that weapon category that isn't depressingly phallic. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:53, 15 August 2007 (BST)

* Ignoring the rod stuff, I'll weigh into the Throwing Blade/Card debate. Firstly, when exactly was 'Throwing Blade' made the standard? I don't remember it becoming an official standard, and I think the term is daft. Secondly, it's not true that 'Card' is only used on JP - check the Bullet License mission. It's the only good reference to the weapon type as a whole except the item descriptions and it uses the term 'Card'. Since the term is used in US PSU, and it's the proper name of the weapon type according to the JP Perfect Bible, I would argue Card is the proper term, and that Throwing Blade is simply the translation of a translation (the point being that the JP item descriptions use kanji to describe the weapon types, presumably カード doesn't mean a lot to them). This has nothing to do with the 'unwritten GRM rule', as 1* GRM weapons are named after the proper term, not the other way round (Rod will be an exception, for obvious reasons). At any rate, if this is an issue a vote should be taken on it, before we reach a decision on what to call them.
** On a side note, if we do go by this as the reasoning for calling the weapon type 'Card', the weapon type 'Grenade Launcher' will have to be changed to 'Grenade' as that is the term used. Consistency is better than mix and match based on what we like and don't like. - [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 19:09, 19 August 2007 (BST)
***Good point on the grenade thing. Personally, and just for the record, I would have nothing against them being known just as that. [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:35, 19 August 2007 (BST)

==User comments==
stealing your sounomi-standard char chart <3 - [[User:Beatrixkiddo|Beatrixkiddo]] 06:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* No problem. Glad to see others adopting it. :D [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:41, 20 June 2007 (BST)
* Updated the template to use the new standard, by the way. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:36, 15 August 2007 (BST)

==Item template design==

Coming soon. Just making a placeholder for the time being.

==Weapon template test==
This example demonstrates the use of the more vivid color-coding to differentiate between items released only on the JP side and those that have not been released at all. It also displays a column to mark which weapons are available in all versions of the game and which are exclusive to ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. I personally think that the italics look a little funny in a table, but I can't make a double-standard for that sake since these abbreviations are representative of game titles, and as such should be italicized. Maybe icons similar to the manufacturer icons would be a better route to take?

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || ''PSU'' || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || ''PSU'' || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || ''AotI'' || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || ''PSU'' || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || ''PSU'' || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

And now with version-indicating icons.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="3" style="background:#bbf"|1★
| [[Sample]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 230 || 72 || 42 || 27 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Samplesou]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 260 || 64 || 38 || 29 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-
| [[Shigga Sample]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 200 || 76 || 45 || 30 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv01~09
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| rowspan="1" style="background:#9ee"|4★
| [[Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 333 || 302 || 149 || 164 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
| rowspan="2" style="background:#9ee"|6★
| [[Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:GRM-logo.png|19px|GRM Shop]] || 356 || 450 || 212 || 266 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || --
|-style="background:#AACCFF"
| [[Samplesou Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Yomei-logo.png|19px|Yohmei Shop]] || 403 || 402 || 189 || 281 || [[Image:Aoilogo.png|19px|Ambition of the Illuminus]] || --
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#bfb"|7★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 2]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 340 || 553 || 253 || 325 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv80~99
|-
! Rank !! Name !! Maker !! PP !! Att. !! Acc. !! Req. !! Ver. !! Comments
|-
| style="background:#ff7"|10★
| [[Shigga Sample Mk. 3]] || [[Image:Tenora-logo.png|19px|Tenora Works]] || 380 || 732 || 373 || 488 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Drop: [[Sample Monster]] Lv100+
|- style="background:#FFAAAA"
| rowspan="1" style="background:#ff7"|12★
| [[Shigga Samplec]] || [[Image:Kubara-logo.png|19px|Kubara Product]] || 300 || 625 || 618 || 617 || [[Image:Psulogo.png|19px|Phantasy Star Universe]] || Still unreleased in JP.
|}

==Qwerty's IVb style==
[[Image:Blackbull.jpg|thumb|right|A female CAST wielding the Blackbull.]]

===Blackbull===
A high-powered rifle developed in secret for the AMF special forces, its destructive power is unmatched.
* Fires black shots, regardless of elemental [[Bullets|bullet]].
* Element of the currently equipped bullet is only noticeable from the color of the glowing photon section of the rifle.
 
{| border="0"
|-
|
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Stats
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Type || [[Rifle]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | PP || 1333
|-
| style="background:#E0E0E0" | Rank || style="background:#ff7"|S || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATP || 586
|-
| style="background:#E0E0e0" | Rarity || style="background:#ff7"|10★ || style="background:#e0e0e0" | ATA || 224
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Mfg. || [[Kubara]] || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Req. || 180
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Board Stats
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Photon || [[Im-photon]] x15 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Ore || [[Junaline]] x2
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Metal || [[Hapotite]] x3 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Wood || [[Par Walna]] x3
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Uses || 1 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Base Rate || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Synth Time || 24 hours || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Board Used || [B] Blackbull
|}
||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4"|Pricing Information
|-
| colspan="2"|Weapon || colspan="2"|Board
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Buy Price || N/A
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || 40500 || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Sell Price || Unknown
|-
| style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None || style="background:#e0e0e0" | Shop Location || None
|}
|}

{| class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="4" | Drop Information
|-
! Mission !! Level !! Type !! Drop
|-
| [[Desert Goliath]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[SEED Awakened]] || S || Board || Boss
|-
| [[Stolen Weapon]] || S2 || Board || Boss
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
| colspan="12"| Grinding Information
|-
| Stat || +0 || +1 || +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || +6 || +7 || +8 || +9 || +10
|-
| PP || 1333 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|-
| ATP || 586 || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
|}

<gallery>
Image:Blackbull.jpg|You get the idea.
Image:Blackbull.jpg|Witty caption here.
</gallery>
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== Templates ==

* Just wondering if you could point me to a good information source for making functional templates. Such as the character profile one I can design the stuff I just need to figure out the variable code part. -- [[User:KyTin|KyTin]] 15:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)