http://re-psupedia.info/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=KitomiThe re-PSUPedia - User contributions [en]2026-04-04T08:48:41ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.27.7http://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Arigan&diff=13212User talk:Arigan2007-01-09T12:16:35Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>sounds neat ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 06:16, 9 January 2007 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Enemy_spawn_charts&diff=13164Talk:Enemy spawn charts2007-01-08T12:08:47Z<p>Kitomi: /* Asking for suggestion */</p>
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<div>==Asking for suggestion==<br />
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Would you prefer I translate all missions over from The Japanese wiki? I heard lots of people were having problems getting them to work so I thought maybe it would be better if people add the data themselves for it...<br />
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But it doesn't look like it is being done, so should I translate the rest over or just make empty sections for people to add? [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 21:37, 7 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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*The more information, the better. So I think a translation would be helpful [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 06:08, 8 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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==New User, Please Help W/ Rare Monsters Chart==<br />
I'm not exactly sure how this site works, so if someone sees this and can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.<br />
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Anyways, I'm having some issues understand how to use the Rare Monsters charts. there's A-1 through A-X etc., and Block 1-3 First Spawns listed for each area. Here's what I am trying to figure out.<br />
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Let's use Sleeping Warriors, Left Stairs Route, for an example.<br />
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~~ For A-1 "Block 1 - Block 3 First Spawn", what does that mean? Does it mean something like, "first spawn in first room" for Block 1, then "first spawn for 2nd room", and "first spawn for 3rd room"?<br />
:I thought that this referred to the first spawns in first room with enemies in Block 1, first spawns in first room with enemies in Block 2, and first spawns in first room with enemies in Block 3. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:16, 1 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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~~ For the A-1 through A-X then, I understand they are different variations, but do you have to get A-X, B-X, and C-X to get rare enemies? Or let's say you get A-X on Block 1 of your run or even Block 2 of your run, theoretically you should automatically get Rappies just because A-X was your Block 1? Or like I said, do you need multiple Block-X's?<br />
:The different A-, B-, and C- layouts are different map orders for the entire mission, with -1, -2, -3, and -X as different patterns of monster spawns. That is, if you don't encounter the "Block 1 First Spawn" in Block 1, "Block 2 First Spawn" in Block 2 and so on for an -X pattern, you probably won't encounter rare monsters. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:16, 1 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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Please let me know, so I can edit the Rare Monsters chart accordingly. I have some variations not posted.<br />
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[[User:Shadow Hado|Shadow Hado]] 05:19, 1 January 2007 (CST)Nate<br />
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== Rares ==<br />
* Do the boss Rares have a seperate Map than the typical Rare maps? [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:37, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* I don't think they're related. I didn't completely understand the explanation from the Bible though (which is basically non-existant, since it only gives a table DX). Guess someone would need to try it out for a bit (whether or not after the tables get posted). - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 17:01, 29 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
This is a little confusing to me. Can anyont make it easier to understand in laymans terms? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* What all is confusing? Thanks for the pictures too, that helps make it easier for people! Same with formatting. I'm new to using wiki things...<br />
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** I just got confused by the spawn listings, I was thinking they were all spawns that showed the rappies, it wasn't until a friend showed me how, then I understanded the X route is the one with the rappies. I'll continue to add pics and upate it for you. Thanks though, awesome work. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 22:32, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Its something that isn't on the English version that will become very important to know, so I'm translating it over. Thanks for making it easier for english speakers to read! [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 22:34, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== T-Intersection ==<br />
That T Intersection bit is a bit iffy. Think we need a picture to clarify what way the first mob of that block is located at? Possibly a gallery image set for "Main locations" within a mission that need to be noted? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I can take a picture...but I'm not sure how to add the picture to the server....the intersection is like a T. You go straight, but then can only go left or right, not straight anymore.<br />
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== Issues with runs ==<br />
I just did a correct run of the Left Turn Route and I had no rappies appear at all. All the flags were there. Is there any other requirements to make them appear? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 04:04, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Are you sure block 3 was 3 delsaban and 2 pannon? B-1 and B-X are very similar, but if they are that similar, then maybe we need to add another + to block 1. [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 11:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* * Pretty sure it was, but maybe I'm wrong. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:39, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* ** I have had the same problem and i printed out the page to make sure the spawn was correct i also noticed that I never got the B-1 set so could it be possible that they were switched by mistake? [[User:Nascarfan38124|Nascarfan38124]] 19:07, 28 December 2006 (CST) <br />
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* *** I just did 3 B-X runs counting the pannons and delsabans so I know that the rappies aren't on it. Maybe on B-1 but I've never gotten it. --[[User:Aethir|Aethir]] 3:16, 30 December 20006 (CST)<br />
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-- You weren't getting the B-X runs then, you did 3 B-1 runs. The difference between B-1 and B-X doesn't show till you get to block 3.<br />
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-- Either they were B-X or the page is wrong. The spawn counts were accurate to the B-X list so either they were B-X and B-1 is correct or they were just mislisted on the page. --[[User:Aethir|Aethir]] 11:51, 31 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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-- You are absolutely sure that the first room in Block 3 immediately spawned with 3 Delsabans and 2 Pannons, not 2 Delsabans and 3 Pannons? I did over a hundred runs, and probably 30+ were B-1 runs, only got B-X once, and it had rappies, so I find it difficult to believe you repeatedly got the B-X spawn set AND it was wrong.<br />
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I just did Valley of Carnage S with the B-X spawn pattern and didn't get any Jao. Can anyone confirm that one is correct? --[[User:Ras|Ras]] 04:37, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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For block 2 of valley of carnage, the enemies listed need to have a sword and shield icon. Also, it needs to spawn as 3 Vanda, and then 2 more, and then 2 more. All with sword and shield.<br />
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== "Train track room"? ==<br />
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Can someone please clarify for me which room this phrase refers to? Is it the dead end room where the Key drops, or is it the room before that, with the platform with the barrels on it? I'm referring to the C-X spawn set, by the way.[[User:212.32.77.163|212.32.77.163]] 13:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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Train track room is the room where the key is. The other map which just has '''train tracks''' is the actual track part. So for C-X, it is the small room. [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 06:39, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Do you mean the room with the small path down onto the tracks or the T-junction's right side where it has around 3 sets of mobs spawn, which overlooks the train tracks? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 06:43, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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*the room onto the tracks where the key spawns... --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 14:53, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Amure? ==<br />
* What is the kana for this name? Given that it is suggested they appear at Valentines, wouldn't a more logical guess at the names be 'amour'? Or 'amore'? Sega liek French (see PSO EPIV) so they might like Italian too. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 12:04, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* アムレ, ノエル, ラタン, パスカ, アクテ, ソニチ. So yeah, it's not because I'm completely illiterate or anything; I did get the references. Some company still fails at languages though! - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:09, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Unsafe Passage B-X ==<br />
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So will the first spawn of block 1 only have 3 pannons and no respawns? I'm sort of confused.<br />
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-Can someone Answer this, im confused on this one also.<br />
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-Yeah B is a little unclear with the spawns. 3 of the variants start with 3 pannons.<br />
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--I spent a while doing LL runs and finally figured out the B-set of maps. B-X is annoying to identify. First, if you go into the first room and there are three pannons, you're on a good start. Kill them, more will spawn. Go to the back part of the room (around the corner but not through the door); if delsabans spawn, you have the wrong set. If it's more pannons, you are in either B-X or B-1. Unfortunately, the block two spawns are the same, so you have to go to block three. But you can skip the enemies down the right path in Block 2.<br />
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== VoC woes ==<br />
Para from HongFire.com says: I just tested the Jao C-X spawn pattern and it didn't give me a Jao.. needs more testing and another confirmation?<br />
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--Are you sure you didn't get C-1? It seems like Sega made one spawn pattern for each map almost identical to the rare spawn pattern. I've been trying to get Jaos too, and have had no luck either.<br />
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No I didn't get C-1. I counted the Vandas and they added up to the C-X spawn number.<br />
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-- I think the C-1 spawn count for block 2 might be wrong. I've never seen 3-3 spawn before, always 3-2-2, and I've never seen Jaos spawn. Also, it seems all the other block 2's that spawn with vandas first spawn 3-2-2, never 3-3.<br />
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Para: I just got another C-X spawn type with no Jao. I believe the current article on C-X is definitely incorrect and someone needs to determine the right one. It could be possible that the 3-3 Vanda Spawn in Block 2 is the real C-X?<br />
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Para: Hmm I just had a spawn today that was C-X and it had Jaggos... There must be something else that can distinguish between the two...<br />
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--If thats the case, and there *is* a 3-3 Vanda spawn in Block two of the C map set, then there are more than 3 mundane maps<br />
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+If you track the actual creature spawns, you will find that there are two different spawn sets that have a total of 7 vandas - there is the elusive 3-2-2 spawn set, and there is a 3-3-1 spawn set. The best way to tell which one you are getting is to make sure you kill all the vandas on each set at the same time. The issue is that if you don't kill them at the same time, they spawn at varying intervals making it difficult to distinguish what pattern you are getting.<br />
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**Does the A-X map work for VoC or is it broken? I finally gave up on C-X as I got the 3-2-2 spawn many times without any Jaos.<br />
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I did the C-X with the 3-2-2 spawn many times and didn't see an jaggos. My character is level 60 so 99 % of the time I killed the 3 first vanda at the same time, then two spawn and then 2 more and no Jaggo at all. I've been trying it for many days now and didn't see any jaggo with that map<br />
. If possible, I would like clarification on the C map. I see no difference in c-1 and c-x by the way, both show 3 jisharaga in the first block and then 3 vanda with sword and shield, 2 vanda with sword and shield + 2 vanda with sword and shield in block 2<br />
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* I've run all 3 x runs numerous times and yet to see a jao... is xmas time changing the appearance of these now??? -Battoh<br />
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== Jaggo Hunting ==<br />
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Are the S rank layouts for rare monsters the same as A-X? These punks keep escaping me on S. >:<br />
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*The A/B/C don't refer to the rank of the mission you are playing, they refer to the layout. For example, VoC A1/2/3/X all have the Left Gate route as the first block. VoC B1/2/3/X all have the Northeast Route as the first block. Hope that helps you understand. [[User:Umberger|Umberger]] 21:11, 3 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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Here it is folks.. <br />
C1 and CX are identical up until a particular sequence in Block 2.<br />
First get to block 2 with the Vanda 3-2-2 sequence. (if you get the 3-3-1 sequence you will not find the jao)<br />
The difference isn't until you pass the gate. <br />
Pass the gate, go down the hill and kill the 2 Kog Nodds.<br />
4 Vanda's will now spawn<br />
:::THIS IS WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS:::<br />
Two different things can happen... <br />
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'''Number 1''': Once '''all''' 4 Vandas (withOUT shield and sword icons) are killed one more Vanda will spawn, then lapuchas. No Jao's will spawn in this map.<br />
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'''Number 2''': Once a '''single''' Vanda is killed, more Vanda's will spawn, then more.(i'm not sure of the number because it's been so few times I've found it (only 4)) Once all the Vandas are killed, the jao's will spawn.<br />
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Im not sure if those 4 Vandas have the sword and shield icons when the jao's spawn, I'll have to re-post after the next time I find the jao. I wasn't paying attention the first 4 times I found them (probably because I was excited)<br />
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I hope this helps.<br />
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PS. I do have one relaxing jao in my room ;)--[[User:RenderingDragon|Ren]] 14:05, 4 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Sleeping Warriors ==<br />
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What is the pattern to A-x? Nothing is listed. [edited 1/2/07]. When we get B-x or C-x we have no problems until the 3 Badira when you go down the stairs on 2nd block. I'm still unable to confirm those myself.<br />
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* Been trying as hard as I can to figure it out, have had no luck with getting A-X. Haven't even been able to confirm the info I got on B-X and C-X. :x --[[User:Cerria|Cerria]] 03:15, 1 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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I'm not sure about C-X but B-X worked for me, took about 3 hours of hunting but i finally encountered rappies and orgdus once... yes the majority of the time the badira x3 at the bottom of the steps was what went wrong with the runs but it is possible. I'm not sure if the luck of leader has to do anything with it, the leader in my party had 3 luck at the time but that culd just be a coincidence. I have yet to find C-X, i always get a polyvohra at bottom of steps instead of 3 badira, but that doesn't mean the chart is wrong, it just means you gotta keep trying. I'm too am trying to figure out the spawns for A-X, i just try and keep a mental note of spawns and if i run into ogdus i'll write it down and post them on here.<br />
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i updated A-x but the second room info is missing. i am also not sure if the first room spawns are the only possibility. but rappies did spawn when the polvora was down the stairs, that part is certain.<br />
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== One of the rare patterns for Mad Creatures ==<br />
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I posted a thread about it over on PSO-World, but being on 360, I can't exactly take pictures. I'd really appreciate if one of you PC guys (or girls) would be able to take some pictures and/or add it to the list. Anyway, here's my post:<br />
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It's the one where you go forward and there's that natural ramp (and 2 haystacks off to the right of it), and the first spawn is 2 Poltys (Polties?), then 3 of them which gives you a key to open the gate, then Vahras when you go down the next natural ramp.<br />
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Block 2...sorry I don't remember the first spawn, I think it was Poltys, but anyway...it's the block where if you go straight, there's a cave where you can take a left or go straight to get items. In there, 4 Distovas spawn. If you take a left in that cave, go up back onto the ground, and there's your Rappy spawn! 4 of them.<br />
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I'm sorry if it's confusing, and I really would try to get pictures of the blocks, but I'm on 360 and much too lazy to take a picture with a digital camera or something.<br />
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Hope that helps people. [[User:Umberger|Umberger]] 21:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)<br />
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Tried it earlier on pc. Didn't work. Got 4 vahras instead. [[User:stridhiryu030363|stridhiryu030363]] 15:10, 7 January 2007 (PST)<br />
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Pattern C Polties first spawn for block 1 and 2, in the cave it is 4 koltova not Distova. [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 21:35, 7 January 2007 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=13130User talk:Kitomi2007-01-08T02:20:54Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Kit */</p>
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<div>==About Kit==<br />
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Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
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[[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:59, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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What servers? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 18:02, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Varies. I seem to run mostly on 3 and 10 it seems. I just completed mt GH-450 this morning. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:41, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Hey there, ^-^, not sure but I think I might have seen you about (in-game that is, if your name is Kitomi) --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 19:15, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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It is, and I think I have maybe seen you one time, I think durring some De Ragan A speed runs? I started a Run and before i could get halfway into block 1 the party filled. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:59, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Awww ^^, Yeah was spamming those! Haha what licenses :P --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 22:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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GunnerTech, FighGunner, Fortegunner, and about to get ForteFighter. and yes all on the same character lol [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:37, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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I only have one Fortetecher, called Hitomi-Chan, find me already :P --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 21:37, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=13057User:Kitomi2007-01-07T20:14:22Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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=='''PSU Character Information'''==<br />
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Like to RP and meet nice people<br />
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I got the first Phantasy Star on the Master System the day it came out, and have played every Phantasy Star since ^^.<br />
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Im a computer nerd but not an obsessed one. Im a Server Support Specialist. ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=13055User:Kitomi2007-01-07T20:13:36Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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=='''PSU Character Information'''==<br />
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|name= Kitomi |race= Cast |gender= ♀ |level= 49 |type= FighGunner|HU= -| RA= -|FO= |FG = -|GT= - |WT= -|fF= 4|fG= 1|fT= |PT= -}}<br />
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Like to RP and meet nice people<br />
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I got the first Phantasy Star on the Master System the day it came out, and have played every Phantasy Star since ^^.<br />
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Im a computer nerd but not an obsessed one. Im a Server Support Specialist. ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=13054User:Kitomi2007-01-07T20:13:16Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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=='''PSU Character Information'''==<br />
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|name= Kitomi |race= Cast |gender= ♀ |level= 48 |type= FighGunner|HU= -| RA= -|FO= |FG = -|GT= - |WT= -|fF= 3|fG= 1|fT= |PT= -}}<br />
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Like to RP and meet nice people<br />
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I got the first Phantasy Star on the Master System the day it came out, and have played every Phantasy Star since ^^.<br />
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Im a computer nerd but not an obsessed one. Im a Server Support Specialist. ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12523User:Kitomi2006-12-31T02:40:38Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Me */</p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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=='''PSU Character Information'''==<br />
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|name= Kitomi |race= Cast |gender= ♀ |level= 48 |type= FighGunner|HU= -| RA= -|FO= |FG = -|GT= - |WT= -|fF= 3|fG= 1|fT= |PT= -}}<br />
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I <3 Shen<br />
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I got the first Phantasy Star on the Master System the day it came out, and have played every Phantasy Star since ^^.<br />
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Im a computer nerd but not an obsessed one. Im a Server Support Specialist. ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12439Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-29T01:52:37Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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<div>==Double Crea FAQ==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I asked Gwimmel about this (who has been able to test this for Crea Doubles); according to him it did not affect PAs. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
** From what I hear Crea Doubles do not get the extra target anyway. Not sure on that though. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:34, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Is it still true that only one Double Crea board has dropped on the U.S. Servers at this time? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:52, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12438Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-29T01:52:19Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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<div>==Crea==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I asked Gwimmel about this (who has been able to test this for Crea Doubles); according to him it did not affect PAs. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
** From what I hear Crea Doubles do not get the extra target anyway. Not sure on that though. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:34, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Is it still true that only one Double Crea board has dropped on the U.S. Servers at this time? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:52, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12437Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-29T01:51:33Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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<div>==Crea==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I asked Gwimmel about this (who has been able to test this for Crea Doubles); according to him it did not affect PAs. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
** From what I hear Crea Doubles do not get the extra target anyway. Not sure on that though. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:34, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12436Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-29T01:51:19Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* Rumor says "Yes, Kitomi, it does." =P [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 18:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* I asked Gwimmel about this (who has been able to test this for Crea Doubles); according to him it did not affect PAs. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
** From what I hear Crea Doubles do not get the extra target anyway. Not sure on that though. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:34, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12435Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-29T01:47:29Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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<div>==Crea==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* Rumor says "Yes, Kitomi, it does." =P [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 18:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* I asked Gwimmel about this (who has been able to test this for Crea Doubles); according to him it did not affect PAs. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
** From what I hear Crea Doubles do not get the extra target anyway. Not sure on that though. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:34, 28 December 2006 (CST)<br />
*** GASP@ -.- [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]]</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12434User talk:Kitomi2006-12-29T01:37:55Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Kit */</p>
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<div>==About Kit==<br />
<br />
Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
<br />
[[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:59, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
What servers? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 18:02, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Varies. I seem to run mostly on 3 and 10 it seems. I just completed mt GH-450 this morning. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:41, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Hey there, ^-^, not sure but I think I might have seen you about (in-game that is, if your name is Kitomi) --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 19:15, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
It is, and I think I have maybe seen you one time, I think durring some De Ragan A speed runs? I started a Run and before i could get halfway into block 1 the party filled. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:59, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
<br />
Awww ^^, Yeah was spamming those! Haha what licenses :P --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 22:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
GunnerTech, FighGunner, Fortegunner, and about to get ForteFighter. and yes all on the same character lol [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:37, 28 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12394User:Kitomi2006-12-28T02:01:32Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Me */</p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
<br />
LV: 48 Cast<br />
<br />
Lv 2 FighGunner<br />
<br />
I <3 Shen<br />
<br />
Like to RP and meet nice people<br />
<br />
I got the first Phantasy Star on the Master System the day it came out, and have played every Phantasy Star since ^^.<br />
<br />
Im a computer nerd but not an obsessed one. Im a Server Support Specialist. ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12393User talk:Kitomi2006-12-28T01:59:59Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Kit */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Kit==<br />
<br />
Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
<br />
[[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:59, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
What servers? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 18:02, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Varies. I seem to run mostly on 3 and 10 it seems. I just completed mt GH-450 this morning. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:41, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Hey there, ^-^, not sure but I think I might have seen you about (in-game that is, if your name is Kitomi) --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 19:15, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
It is, and I think I have maybe seen you one time, I think durring some De Ragan A speed runs? I started a Run and before i could get halfway into block 1 the party filled. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:59, 27 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Dark_Dajin&diff=12380User talk:Dark Dajin2006-12-28T01:04:49Z<p>Kitomi: /* Talk */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Talk==<br />
Dark Dajin: Lets talk, just keep it orderly and clean, use < br > not * and type your name infront of your message. Hoping to get to know some of you better :)<br><br />
Dark Dajin: Oh yeah, got two Junaline and a Vulcaline in one S-Rank mission, which we then proceeded to S-Rank and get a PA Fragment to boot. This was a lucky day since it was on Linear Line 'Unsafe Passage S' and none of us had scapedolls :p<br><br />
Dark Dajin: Documenting everything is hard work, especially if you can't use screenshots or logs (disadvantage of the 360). But things are cmoing along. I wonder how the -mate drops from the creatures work, as well as the wenceline etc.<br><br />
<br />
* Nice page :P, you edit the wiki often? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 15:50, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Dark Dajin: Thanks, I do what I can, and do some minor editing when I feel like it. Currently I'm trying to get a comprehensive drop database going...its getting kinda big ^_^;; Got any ideas? Since you as a SysOp should know much more about whats already out there.<br><br />
<br />
Kitomi: Hi Dark Dajin. Wonderful Page. I wanted to know if I could use your chart for Level and licenses on your main page, and if you would meet me to screen shot me? My video is bad as im on laptop. :( <br><br>PS: Supposedly Bel Pannon on S Rank drops [B] Double Crea [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:03, 27 December 2006 (CST) <BR><br><br><br />
<br />
Dark Dajin: hehe, it's christmas! <br><br />
{| border="1"<br />
|[[Image:Oni_Seraph_Girl.jpg|Oni Tree]]||[[Image:Oni_Tree_Vendor.jpg|Look at my trees!]]<br />
|-<br />
|Oni doing his thing :)||Oni the tree vender<br />
|-<br />
|[[Image:Oni_too_much_eggnog.jpg|Whee!]]<br />
|-<br />
|Don't drink too much eggnog kids!<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
| -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Notes (DO NOT ALTER!)==<br />
===Guardians Colony===<br />
====Unsafe Passage====<br />
Parts of the Linear Line are shut down due to the SEED. Walking along the access corridors is the only way to get to some parts of the colony.<br />
<br />
Destination: Linear Line: Transfer Terminal<br />
<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
|-<br />
| C || 0 || 1~ || 100 || 2 || 50 || 1 || ? || ? || 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| B || 5 || 20~ || 450 || 5 || 300 || 3 || ? || ?|| 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| A || 20 || 30~ || 650 || 7 || 425 || 4 || ? || ? || 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| S || 35 || 55~ || 1150 || 11 || 750 || 7 || 375 || 3 || 0 || 0<br />
|}<br />
<br />
- S-Rank also gives a '[[PA Fragment]]'<br><br />
- [[Unsafe Passage|Detailed Map]]<br />
<br />
=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
|-<br />
| Pannon || lvl 1<br>2/1 exp<br>Dark || Pannon Jelly<br>[B] Sabra<br>Unknown Meat<br>Altim Crim<br>Marseline<br>Dimate<br>Acenaline || lvl 20<br>13/ exp<br>Dark || Dimate<br>Antimate<br>Monomate || lvl 30<br>19/13 exp<br>Dark || Unknown Meat<br>Dianaline<br>Antimate<br>Altim Crim<br>Megi-photon<br>El-photon<br>Ban-photon<br>Pannon Jelly<br>Aporaline || N/A || N/A<br />
|-<br />
| Delsaban || lvl 1<br>4/ exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Acenaline<br>Saber<br>Aporaline<br>Wenceline || lvl 20<br>23/ exp<br>Dark || Aporaline<br>Trimate<br>El-photon || lvl 30<br>33/23 exp<br>Dark || Dianaline<br>Monomate || N/A || N/A<br />
|-<br />
| Sendillan || lvl 1<br>4/ exp<br>Dark || Dimate || lvl 20<br>23/ exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Dimate<br>Megi-photon || lvl 30<br>33/23 exp<br>Dark || Megi-photon<br>Acenaline<br>Monomate || lvl 55<br>65/45 exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Unknown Meat<br>Altim Crim<br />
|-<br />
| Bel Pannon || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || lvl 55<br>39/27 exp<br>Dark || Vestaline<br>Marseline<br>Megi-photon<br>Kerseline<br>Dimate<br>Aporaline<br>Dianaline<br />
|-<br />
| Deljaban || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || lvl 55<br>65/45 exp<br>Dark || Megi-photon<br>Marseline<br />
|-<br />
| Rappy || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Carlian<br>El-photon<br>Megi-photon<br>Im-photon<br>[B] Mixed Juice<br>Gra-photon || N/A || Health Items<br>Megi-photon<br>Ray-photon<br>Zon-photon<br>Ban-photon<br>Photon<br>Carlian || N/A || Health Items<br>Megi-photon<br>Carlian<br>Peparian<br>Im-photon<br>Di-photon || N/A || Health Items<br>Im-photon<br>Gra-photon<br>Di-photon<br>Megi-photon<br>Stelnium<br>Peparian<br>El-photon<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Parum===<br />
====Sleeping Warriors====<br />
Teams investigating the Raffon RELICS site are being held back by Stateria, the reactivated ancient weapons. Clear the way for the research teams!<br />
<br />
Destination: Raffon Meadow: Field Base<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
|-<br />
| C || 0 || 15~ || 600 || 6 || 400 || 4 || 200 || 2 || 100 || 1<br />
|-<br />
| B || 20 || 30~ || 1050 || 10 || 700 || 6 || 350 || 3? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| A || 35 || 40~ || 1350 || 13 || 900 || 8 || 450 || 4 || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| S || 55 || 65~ || 1850 || 18 || 1425 || 12 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|}<br />
<br />
- S-Rank also gives a '[[PA Fragment]]'<br />
<br />
=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
|-<br />
| Golmoro || lvl 16<br>19/ exp<br>Light || Aporaline<br>Wenceline<br>Gra-photon<br>Acenaline || lvl 31<br>34/23 exp<br>Light || Dianaline<br>Gra-photon || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Badira || lvl 16<br>11/ exp<br>Fire || Wenceline<br>Monomate<br>Hustle Berry || lvl 31<br>20/14 exp<br>Fire || Aporaline<br>Love Berry<br>Acenaline<br>Cold Berry<br>Dianaline<br>Hustle Berry || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Polavohra || lvl 16<br>76/ exp<br>Lightning || Staff || lvl 31<br>136/95 exp<br>Lightning || Aporaline<br>Olpad || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Svaltus || lvl 16<br>157/ exp<br>Light || -- || lvl 31<br>282/197 exp<br>Light || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Nanosilica<br>Harnium<br>Gamotite<br>Badira<br>Zon-photon<br>Meganite<br>Par Wood<br>Cold Berry || N/A || Health Items<br>Golmoro<br>Badira<br>Zepotite<br>El-photon<br>Nanosilica<br>Gra-photon<br>Gamotite<br>Par Wood<br>Cold Berry<br>Meganite || N/A || -- || N/A || --<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Endrum Remnants====<br />
Remnants of the Endrum Collective have occupied an underwater energy plant, demanding the release of their leader, Harness. Neutralize them.<br />
<br />
(Note: Upon completion, the bubble at the top-left calls this mission "Endrum Underground".)<br />
<br />
Destination: Lake Denes<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
|-<br />
| C || 0 || 15~ || 450 || 5 || 325 || 3 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| B || 25 || 35~ || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| A || 35 || 45~ || 2850 || 26 || 950 || 8 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| S || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
|-<br />
| YG-01Z BUG || lvl 16<br>24/16 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| YG-01K BUGGE || lvl 16<br>24/16 exp<br>Lightning || [B] Dimate<br>[B] Trimate<br>[B] Sol Atomizer || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| GSM-05B Bomalta || lvl 16<br>28/19 exp<br>Lightning || Dianaline || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Special Ops (Kanohne) || lvl 16<br>26/18 exp<br>Neutral || Shock Trap G<br>Silence Trap G || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Grinna Bete C || lvl 16<br>81/56 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Special Ops (Assault) || lvl 16<br>19/16 exp<br>Neutral || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| GSM-05 Seeker || lvl 16<br>28/19 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Teranite<br>Gamotite<br>Nanosilica || N/A || -- || N/A || -- || N/A || --<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Generalization===<br />
Health Items: Monomate, Dimate, Trimate, Star Atomizer, Antimate, Sol Atomizer, Moon Atomizer, Moon Atomizer X, Scape Doll, Agtaride, Defbaride, Retaride, Zodaride, Megistaride, Photon Charge, Photon Charge Cosmo, [B] Monomate, [B] Dimate, [B] Trimate, [B] Star Atomizer, [B] Antimate, [B] Sol Atomizer, [B] Moon Atomizer, [B] Moon Atomizer X, [B] Scape Doll, [B] Agtaride, [B] Defbaride, [B] Retaride, [B] Zodaride, [B] Megistaride</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Dark_Dajin&diff=12379User talk:Dark Dajin2006-12-28T01:03:16Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
<hr />
<div>==Talk==<br />
Dark Dajin: Lets talk, just keep it orderly and clean, use < br > not * and type your name infront of your message. Hoping to get to know some of you better :)<br><br />
Dark Dajin: Oh yeah, got two Junaline and a Vulcaline in one S-Rank mission, which we then proceeded to S-Rank and get a PA Fragment to boot. This was a lucky day since it was on Linear Line 'Unsafe Passage S' and none of us had scapedolls :p<br><br />
Dark Dajin: Documenting everything is hard work, especially if you can't use screenshots or logs (disadvantage of the 360). But things are cmoing along. I wonder how the -mate drops from the creatures work, as well as the wenceline etc.<br><br />
<br />
* Nice page :P, you edit the wiki often? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 15:50, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
Dark Dajin: Thanks, I do what I can, and do some minor editing when I feel like it. Currently I'm trying to get a comprehensive drop database going...its getting kinda big ^_^;; Got any ideas? Since you as a SysOp should know much more about whats already out there.<br><br />
<br />
Kitomi: Hi Dark Dajin. Wonderful Page. I wanted to know if I could use your chart for Level and licenses on your main page, and if you would meet me to screen shot me? My video is bad as im on laptop. :( [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 19:03, 27 December 2006 (CST) <BR><br><br><br />
<br />
Dark Dajin: hehe, it's christmas! <br><br />
{| border="1"<br />
|[[Image:Oni_Seraph_Girl.jpg|Oni Tree]]||[[Image:Oni_Tree_Vendor.jpg|Look at my trees!]]<br />
|-<br />
|Oni doing his thing :)||Oni the tree vender<br />
|-<br />
|[[Image:Oni_too_much_eggnog.jpg|Whee!]]<br />
|-<br />
|Don't drink too much eggnog kids!<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
| -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Notes (DO NOT ALTER!)==<br />
===Guardians Colony===<br />
====Unsafe Passage====<br />
Parts of the Linear Line are shut down due to the SEED. Walking along the access corridors is the only way to get to some parts of the colony.<br />
<br />
Destination: Linear Line: Transfer Terminal<br />
<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
|-<br />
| C || 0 || 1~ || 100 || 2 || 50 || 1 || ? || ? || 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| B || 5 || 20~ || 450 || 5 || 300 || 3 || ? || ?|| 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| A || 20 || 30~ || 650 || 7 || 425 || 4 || ? || ? || 0 || 0<br />
|-<br />
| S || 35 || 55~ || 1150 || 11 || 750 || 7 || 375 || 3 || 0 || 0<br />
|}<br />
<br />
- S-Rank also gives a '[[PA Fragment]]'<br><br />
- [[Unsafe Passage|Detailed Map]]<br />
<br />
=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
|-<br />
| Pannon || lvl 1<br>2/1 exp<br>Dark || Pannon Jelly<br>[B] Sabra<br>Unknown Meat<br>Altim Crim<br>Marseline<br>Dimate<br>Acenaline || lvl 20<br>13/ exp<br>Dark || Dimate<br>Antimate<br>Monomate || lvl 30<br>19/13 exp<br>Dark || Unknown Meat<br>Dianaline<br>Antimate<br>Altim Crim<br>Megi-photon<br>El-photon<br>Ban-photon<br>Pannon Jelly<br>Aporaline || N/A || N/A<br />
|-<br />
| Delsaban || lvl 1<br>4/ exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Acenaline<br>Saber<br>Aporaline<br>Wenceline || lvl 20<br>23/ exp<br>Dark || Aporaline<br>Trimate<br>El-photon || lvl 30<br>33/23 exp<br>Dark || Dianaline<br>Monomate || N/A || N/A<br />
|-<br />
| Sendillan || lvl 1<br>4/ exp<br>Dark || Dimate || lvl 20<br>23/ exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Dimate<br>Megi-photon || lvl 30<br>33/23 exp<br>Dark || Megi-photon<br>Acenaline<br>Monomate || lvl 55<br>65/45 exp<br>Dark || Monomate<br>Unknown Meat<br>Altim Crim<br />
|-<br />
| Bel Pannon || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || lvl 55<br>39/27 exp<br>Dark || Vestaline<br>Marseline<br>Megi-photon<br>Kerseline<br>Dimate<br>Aporaline<br>Dianaline<br />
|-<br />
| Deljaban || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || N/A || lvl 55<br>65/45 exp<br>Dark || Megi-photon<br>Marseline<br />
|-<br />
| Rappy || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Carlian<br>El-photon<br>Megi-photon<br>Im-photon<br>[B] Mixed Juice<br>Gra-photon || N/A || Health Items<br>Megi-photon<br>Ray-photon<br>Zon-photon<br>Ban-photon<br>Photon<br>Carlian || N/A || Health Items<br>Megi-photon<br>Carlian<br>Peparian<br>Im-photon<br>Di-photon || N/A || Health Items<br>Im-photon<br>Gra-photon<br>Di-photon<br>Megi-photon<br>Stelnium<br>Peparian<br>El-photon<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Parum===<br />
====Sleeping Warriors====<br />
Teams investigating the Raffon RELICS site are being held back by Stateria, the reactivated ancient weapons. Clear the way for the research teams!<br />
<br />
Destination: Raffon Meadow: Field Base<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
|-<br />
| C || 0 || 15~ || 600 || 6 || 400 || 4 || 200 || 2 || 100 || 1<br />
|-<br />
| B || 20 || 30~ || 1050 || 10 || 700 || 6 || 350 || 3? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| A || 35 || 40~ || 1350 || 13 || 900 || 8 || 450 || 4 || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| S || 55 || 65~ || 1850 || 18 || 1425 || 12 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|}<br />
<br />
- S-Rank also gives a '[[PA Fragment]]'<br />
<br />
=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
|-<br />
| Golmoro || lvl 16<br>19/ exp<br>Light || Aporaline<br>Wenceline<br>Gra-photon<br>Acenaline || lvl 31<br>34/23 exp<br>Light || Dianaline<br>Gra-photon || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Badira || lvl 16<br>11/ exp<br>Fire || Wenceline<br>Monomate<br>Hustle Berry || lvl 31<br>20/14 exp<br>Fire || Aporaline<br>Love Berry<br>Acenaline<br>Cold Berry<br>Dianaline<br>Hustle Berry || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Polavohra || lvl 16<br>76/ exp<br>Lightning || Staff || lvl 31<br>136/95 exp<br>Lightning || Aporaline<br>Olpad || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Svaltus || lvl 16<br>157/ exp<br>Light || -- || lvl 31<br>282/197 exp<br>Light || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Nanosilica<br>Harnium<br>Gamotite<br>Badira<br>Zon-photon<br>Meganite<br>Par Wood<br>Cold Berry || N/A || Health Items<br>Golmoro<br>Badira<br>Zepotite<br>El-photon<br>Nanosilica<br>Gra-photon<br>Gamotite<br>Par Wood<br>Cold Berry<br>Meganite || N/A || -- || N/A || --<br />
|}<br />
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====Endrum Remnants====<br />
Remnants of the Endrum Collective have occupied an underwater energy plant, demanding the release of their leader, Harness. Neutralize them.<br />
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(Note: Upon completion, the bubble at the top-left calls this mission "Endrum Underground".)<br />
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Destination: Lake Denes<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=3|LV || rowspan=3|Req. LV || rowspan=3|[[Monster]] LV || colspan=8|Rank<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2|S || colspan=2|A || colspan=2|B || colspan=2|C<br />
|-<br />
| Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points || Meseta || Points<br />
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| C || 0 || 15~ || 450 || 5 || 325 || 3 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| B || 25 || 35~ || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| A || 35 || 45~ || 2850 || 26 || 950 || 8 || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|-<br />
| S || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?<br />
|}<br />
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=====Monsters & Drops=====<br />
{| border="1" style="text-align:center"<br />
! Monster !! Rank C Stats !! Rank C Drops !! Rank B Stats !! Rank B Drops !! Rank A Stats !! Rank A Drops !! Rank S Stats !! Rank S Drops<br />
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| YG-01Z BUG || lvl 16<br>24/16 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| YG-01K BUGGE || lvl 16<br>24/16 exp<br>Lightning || [B] Dimate<br>[B] Trimate<br>[B] Sol Atomizer || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| GSM-05B Bomalta || lvl 16<br>28/19 exp<br>Lightning || Dianaline || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Special Ops (Kanohne) || lvl 16<br>26/18 exp<br>Neutral || Shock Trap G<br>Silence Trap G || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Grinna Bete C || lvl 16<br>81/56 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Special Ops (Assault) || lvl 16<br>19/16 exp<br>Neutral || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| GSM-05 Seeker || lvl 16<br>28/19 exp<br>Lightning || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || -- || --<br />
|-<br />
| Box || N/A || Health Items<br>Teranite<br>Gamotite<br>Nanosilica || N/A || -- || N/A || -- || N/A || --<br />
|}<br />
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===Generalization===<br />
Health Items: Monomate, Dimate, Trimate, Star Atomizer, Antimate, Sol Atomizer, Moon Atomizer, Moon Atomizer X, Scape Doll, Agtaride, Defbaride, Retaride, Zodaride, Megistaride, Photon Charge, Photon Charge Cosmo, [B] Monomate, [B] Dimate, [B] Trimate, [B] Star Atomizer, [B] Antimate, [B] Sol Atomizer, [B] Moon Atomizer, [B] Moon Atomizer X, [B] Scape Doll, [B] Agtaride, [B] Defbaride, [B] Retaride, [B] Zodaride, [B] Megistaride</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12376User:Kitomi2006-12-28T00:48:33Z<p>Kitomi: /* About Me */</p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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LV: 48 Cast<br />
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Lv 2 FighGunner<br />
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I <3 Shen<br />
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Like to RP and meet nice people</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12375User:Kitomi2006-12-28T00:48:19Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
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LV: 48 Cast<br />
F<br />
Lv 2 FighGunner<br />
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I <3 Shen<br />
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Like to RP and meet nice people</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12374User:Kitomi2006-12-28T00:46:47Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
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I <3 Shen</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12371Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-28T00:36:44Z<p>Kitomi: /* Crea */</p>
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<div>==Crea==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* Rumor says "Yes, Kitomi, it does." =P [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 18:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Character_Creation&diff=12370Talk:Character Creation2006-12-28T00:35:58Z<p>Kitomi: /* Question on Gender */</p>
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<div>==Question on Gender==<br />
Somewhere I had read that the stats vary depending on if your character is male or female. Is this true?<br />
Feel free to delete this but I thought it had to do with Character creation, and Figured this is a good place to ask. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:20, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* Yeah, they have different base stats. The differences aren't that big, but males seem to be more physically inclined, females magically. I'll probably post stat stuff soon; hope I won't keep slacking off to play the game. >_<; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 04:40, 26 December 2006 (CST)<br />
**But im a cast and dont use magic -.- [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 18:35, 27 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12369Talk:Main Page2006-12-28T00:34:53Z<p>Kitomi: /* Screenshot of the Day */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
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<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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* I believe that, since we moved, we no longer have the Who's Online extension installed. If HitomiCHAN installs it it'll come back, but until then we won't get it. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:05, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* Thank you Mewn. I didnt know the site moved. I only learned about it yesterday. ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:07, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
******* I think a screenshot of the day would be nice, as well as a Page dedicated specifically to the Events, along with screen shots, similar to the one describing the known events, but One that lists them as they occure, along with reported findings and such for each one. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:50, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
******** That would be interesting, but then how do we go about moderating it. --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 14:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
********* I would suggest giving only specific people rights to it, and they could be responsable for covering the event, like a reporter would. Even the large - game changing updates could be considered an event in that case as well, though the holliday events and special events would be much more entertaining. [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 18:34, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
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{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa" class="News_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#50C878; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''News'''</font><br />
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! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU</div><br />
|-<br />
| <br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#12.2F09.2F2006:_Second_Update.21|12 - 09]]''' Second Update!<br />
* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
|}<br />
| <br />
| style="border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff" class="Featured_Article_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#4169E1; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''Featured Articles'''</font><br />
|-<br />
| <div style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">What is this?</div><br />
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| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Did anyone mind greatly that we changed the layout on the front abit.! --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 14:39, 27 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****There are a couple in Moatoob, as well as one that open area's for boxes as well. I havent found any walls online mode yet, but im looking ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:47, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12205User talk:Kitomi2006-12-26T22:41:38Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Kit==<br />
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Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
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[[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:59, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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What servers? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 18:02, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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Varies. I seem to run mostly on 3 and 10 it seems. I just completed mt GH-450 this morning. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:41, 26 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User:Kitomi&diff=12110User:Kitomi2006-12-25T23:03:18Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12107User talk:Kitomi2006-12-25T22:59:35Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==About Kit==<br />
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Currently a Fighgunner, level 47. I like roleplaying alot, and enjoy helping people do runs, sweeps or attempting to find specific rares. Feel free to meet up with me anytime ^^<br />
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[[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:59, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12103Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T22:50:09Z<p>Kitomi: /* Screenshot of the Day */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
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<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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* I believe that, since we moved, we no longer have the Who's Online extension installed. If HitomiCHAN installs it it'll come back, but until then we won't get it. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:05, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* Thank you Mewn. I didnt know the site moved. I only learned about it yesterday. ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:07, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
******* I think a screenshot of the day would be nice, as well as a Page dedicated specifically to the Events, along with screen shots, similar to the one describing the known events, but One that lists them as they occure, along with reported findings and such for each one. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:50, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
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{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa" class="News_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#50C878; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''News'''</font><br />
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! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU</div><br />
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| <br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#12.2F09.2F2006:_Second_Update.21|12 - 09]]''' Second Update!<br />
* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
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! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia</div><br />
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| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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| style="border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff" class="Featured_Article_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#4169E1; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''Featured Articles'''</font><br />
|-<br />
| <div style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">What is this?</div><br />
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| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
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Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****There are a couple in Moatoob, as well as one that open area's for boxes as well. I havent found any walls online mode yet, but im looking ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:47, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12102Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T22:47:41Z<p>Kitomi: /* Goggle Vision */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
<br />
<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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* I believe that, since we moved, we no longer have the Who's Online extension installed. If HitomiCHAN installs it it'll come back, but until then we won't get it. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:05, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* Thank you Mewn. I didnt know the site moved. I only learned about it yesterday. ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:07, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
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{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa" class="News_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#50C878; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''News'''</font><br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU</div><br />
|-<br />
| <br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#12.2F09.2F2006:_Second_Update.21|12 - 09]]''' Second Update!<br />
* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
|}<br />
| <br />
| style="border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff" class="Featured_Article_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#4169E1; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''Featured Articles'''</font><br />
|-<br />
| <div style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">What is this?</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****There are a couple in Moatoob, as well as one that open area's for boxes as well. I havent found any walls online mode yet, but im looking ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:47, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Crea_weapons&diff=12101Talk:Crea weapons2006-12-25T22:24:45Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==Crea==<br />
Does the ability to hit one extra creature also effect Photon Art Skills, or does this only effect normal strikes? ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12100User talk:Kitomi2006-12-25T22:21:24Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div></div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Character_Creation&diff=12099Talk:Character Creation2006-12-25T22:20:41Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>==Question on Gender==<br />
Somewhere I had read that the stats vary depending on if your character is male or female. Is this true?<br />
Feel free to delete this but I thought it had to do with Character creation, and Figured this is a good place to ask. ^^ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:20, 25 December 2006 (CST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12098Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T22:07:59Z<p>Kitomi: /* Users online */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
<br />
<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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* I believe that, since we moved, we no longer have the Who's Online extension installed. If HitomiCHAN installs it it'll come back, but until then we won't get it. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 16:05, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* Thank you Mewn. I didnt know the site moved. I only learned about it yesterday. ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 16:07, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
<br />
{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa" class="News_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#50C878; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''News'''</font><br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU</div><br />
|-<br />
| <br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#12.2F09.2F2006:_Second_Update.21|12 - 09]]''' Second Update!<br />
* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
|}<br />
| <br />
| style="border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff" class="Featured_Article_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#4169E1; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''Featured Articles'''</font><br />
|-<br />
| <div style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">What is this?</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12092Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T22:00:19Z<p>Kitomi: /* Users online */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
<br />
These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
<br />
<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
<br />
When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
<br />
== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
<br />
==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
<br />
{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
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| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12091Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T21:59:56Z<p>Kitomi: /* Users online */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
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<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
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* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
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| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
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|}<br />
Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=12090Talk:Main Page2006-12-25T21:59:28Z<p>Kitomi: /* Users online */</p>
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<div>== Anonymous users ==<br />
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These unregistered users making pointless edits are getting beyond the joke. Leaving a line of what they think of a weapon if the weapon doesn't have a page and so on. Anyway we can force registration? It'll save a lot of time wasted by reverting these edits. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 19:13, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_logged-in_users_to_edit.3F] --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 19:55, 16 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Actually, I'm wondering about this as well. Not sure how I could get around to making global changes now that the wiki is already set up though; I really need to find out about that. >_< - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 02:40, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I agree with Jubei here. Not only are they making pointless edits, but we also have no idea who they are. At least if they are forced to register we can associate a name with the edit, rather than a number. 99% of all vandalism comes from anonymous users as well, so it'll present an obstacle for those users. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 09:23, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* After having reconsidered, I'm starting to think this might not be such a great idea after all. I believe that if users would need to register in order to vandalize, they would just register (likely incognito) before vandalizing. Really, we could just ban the IPs anyway; I think this way it's actually a lot easier to find potential vandalism, while still not really scaring regular users away. Maybe it's kinda subjective, but eh, if you still insist and know to change this, I wouldn't mind. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:31, 17 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Users online==<br />
Man, this needs to be integrated into the main page;<br />
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<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline><br />
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When will these new plugins be implimented? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Well, they should already be functional at least. I'm still hoping I could get the other ones to work later on as well though.. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I see it on there now, ahh a more wholesome community feel is starting to manifest. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:42, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* It seems to slow the loading time of the main page, I can re-add it if you wish, also I'm adding a TODO page, that in favour with everyone? --[[User:HitomiCHAN|HitomiCHAN]] 09:39, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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* I am a bit new to this. Where can I find the Users Online? I am not seeing it on the main page. ^^ ~ [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:59, 25 December 2006 (CST) ~<br />
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== Screenshot of the Day ==<br />
* Is it me or is this page really missing something? How about a screenshot of the day? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:48, 24 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I don't know exactly what you had in mind, or what others would think about this, but... would you be willing to take care of it then, given the privileges? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:13, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* I just mean some random contributed screenshot of someone's gameplay, placed somewhere on the main page with a small description and a heading of "Daily Screenshot" or something similar. Is there a way to do a gallery on a wiki? or could you just make a table of old screens if this is going to be done? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:17, 25 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* Ahzi never installed the gallery feature. I think we should do the Daily Screenshot, because I'm not putting the other three templates until we get a fourth to occupy a lot of empty space lol. The thumbnail size for the picture will have to be 310px or less in width and 200px in height, but because of how much extra space we have we could use two pictures and split them up. I'm still having trouble finishing the new luck template, because I have to fit the Photon Fortune head.PNG into it (this makes it pretty and best of all larger, the pictures/descriptions can be longer now), and it's not allowing me a color border, so until you give me a go for the idea, I'll keep trying this one. Check out my talk page if you want to see how I'll be setting the templates on the main page, or ask me on my talk page (it's getting lonely) for the text if you feel ambitious enough to finish the luck template and make a color border for it. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 06:06, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* A few screenshots of the giant trees and christmas decorations would be most fitting right now, wouldnt it? I just uploaded one if you'd like to use it. Sorry for the low quality tho, since i run on 800x600 window mode resolution. I'd upload more, but I'm dead tired. I'm off for now. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 10:16, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I'll look into integrating Flickr-like functionality, but I wouldn't know how to get this 'screenshot of the day' thing running, nor who'd look after it. The image is probably good for the Events/Updates sections though, together with a news article. Miraglyth, where are you? :wacko: - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:49, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** How about a group of people handle it? Maybe get a few of us in IRC to handle it, since most of us do edits here anyway? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:43, 11 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** I'm all for stuff like this. Uh ... I'm not knowledgable on how to run a wiki, but isn't there a way people can upload their screenshots to a specific pool of such images separate of the file repository we've already got, and then the team JubeiSaotome mentioned would pick which one(s) to use each day? - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 13:19, 12 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** That would most likely eat up bandwidth, especially if people don't save them in the right format. Default raw PSU images are up to 5mb. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 00:44, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
***** Does Wiki even allow people to upload bitmaps? At least, in my experience, Wiki refuses bitmaps. On my first attempt to upload a picture for my user page, my paint program didn't save it as a jpg even though I specified that as the file extension (whoops); PSUP didn't accept it. When I realized what was wrong and correctly saved it as a jpg, then it did.<br><br>... Heh. I just realized, 'PSUP' sounds like Pea Soup. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** maybe, but NO BITMAPS, we needto get people to use Adobe's save for web functions, or are there programs that are free that people could use to convert their images to a smaller size without losing any quality? Saving for web can reduce an image size from 3mb to 150kb --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:44, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
******* Well, like I said ... based on my experiences, I don't think the wiki accepts bitmaps ''at all.'' That makes sense given that bitmaps are not web-friendly and I don't think that many web browsers can even ''display'' them (certainly not many of the older ones). I don't think we have to worry about ''anyone'' uploading five megabyte pictures to the wiki.<br><br>As for a program that'd convert PSU's bitmap screenshots to a web-friendly format--Adobe's programs are not necessary for this. The "save for web" feature you mention, I'm almost sure you're talking about converting a file to .JPG.<br><br>Any PC with a Windows OS should have MS Paint. It's very simple and easy to use, too. Save a file as a .JPG and bam, a 1024x768 screenshot is now 130 KB. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
****** [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] free, small size, excellent quality. --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 04:42, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
****** [http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html Paint.NET] Very nice free app I have used for years, takes mere seconds to convert images, also has plenty of other cool features. --[[User:DLE|DemonLordEtna]] 04:00, 24 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==Icon==<br />
* I was thinking of ideas for the site's address icon... thingy-- the icon next to it in the favorites. Anyways, I was thinking of having the three planets, or I could take the leaf that's in the corner. Suggestions or preferences? ~ [[User:Irovax|Irovax]]<br />
* Hm, never thought about that before. We were kinda considering to get rid of the clover/vine image though. I'm not much of an artist myself, so maybe someone else could make something better to replace that and the site icon. I'm fine with anything really; there are probably plenty of creative people out there. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]<br />
* If and when it does get changed, the icon on the search plugin would need to be changed to maintain professionalism. If for some reason I'm not around to do that, use [http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data this place] to turn a 16x16 .gif with the necessary transparencies into the base-64 encoded data that you can insert into the .xml by editing it as a text file. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:11, 11 November 2006 (PST)<br />
* What about using a generic GUARDIANS icon? --[[User:SiegeV|SiegeV]] 17:55, 9 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Sounds decent actually. Any clue for the clover at the top though? x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:24, 10 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you use one of the logo files from the PSU fansite kit from Sega? Or if that is too plain, I could come up with something original, or even some small flash file. What do ya think? Some quick examples of banners I made while with jeM on PSO:<br />
[http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/shonky1/PSO%20jeM%20web/jeMbanner1.jpg Example Banner]<br />
<br>[http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/13273/jeMweb/dragonbanner.htm Example Flash Banner]- [[User:Shonky|Shonky]] 20:56, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I think we need a logo, not imagery. It should be something simple, yet something people can recognize us by. Take the clothing shop icon for instance, it's a tshirt, related to what it's selling and you always know thats where to buy clothes on PSU. Why not an icon related to a dictionary or an encyclopedia? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:18, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I kinda liked the banner for http://psobb.forumwise.com/ actually. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 08:30, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Hey, if we're gonna do that, why not make a whole PSU-themed skin for the wiki? (I'm serious here, that would be rather cool.) - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 12:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Maybe something that follows the game's gui layout? That would be awesome. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:45, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
**** If I knew how skinning MediaWiki worked, I'd love to help out with such a project. I could still help out with graphics though, I think. - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 17:15, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* I personally don't have any artistic capabilities whatsoever, but anyway, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins this page] explains the skinning stuff a bit. Moreover, one could just check the skins of other major wiki projects, like the [http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page WoW one]. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:29, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Far as replacing the clover at the top goes, it seems to me the whole wiki concept (in this case, "for fans, by fans") made me think the obvious solution is, of course, [http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1350/newwiki2rv6.png fan art]. - [[User:LlamaX|LlamaX]]<br />
* Instant win. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 01:55, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
* [http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu1643.jpg Icon], this thing any good? --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 05:02, 21 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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==CSS and table background images==<br />
Did a bit of experimenting offline:<br />
#Tag each of the main page tables with an ID (or class).<br />
#Add to MediaWiki:Monobook.css (or Common.css) the following:<br />
<pre><br />
<id or class name> {<br />
background-image: url('image name');<br />
background-position: bottom right (attachment point);<br />
}<br />
</pre><br />
Can't seem to put it directly into the style for the table because MediaWiki kills the entire style if there's a url() in there.<br />
--[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]]<br />
* Thanks; I'll try again later. x_x - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 06:08, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Could you try to make one as an example please? _|￣|○ - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 11:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
Let's see...<br />
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{| style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"<br />
| style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa" class="News_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#50C878; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''News'''</font><br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU</div><br />
|-<br />
| <br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#12.2F09.2F2006:_Second_Update.21|12 - 09]]''' Second Update!<br />
* [[Image:US Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F30.2F2006:_Update_News.21|11 - 30]]''' Update News!<br />
* [[Image:EU Bullet.PNG]]'''[[News#11.2F24.2F2006:_Official_European_Release|11 - 24]]''' Official European Release<br />
|-<br />
! <div style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | I apologize for the downtime. I've been trying to add a bit more functionality to the wiki, and managed to integrate a few new extensions; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sent/Poll Poll], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort Sort], [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage RandomImage], and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whos_Online Whos Online]. I've been considering [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flickrm Flickrm] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiDB WikiDB] as well, but the latter did not really seem to work well, while the latter seems a bit complicated and unstable (not to mention I'm pretty tired!). Again, sorry about the downtime, and I hope the new options would be useful to the wiki. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:50, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
|}<br />
| <br />
| style="border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000" |<br />
{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff" class="Featured_Article_Test"<br />
! style="background-color:#4169E1; padding:10px; text-align:center;" | <font color=white size=6>'''Featured Articles'''</font><br />
|-<br />
| <div style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;<br />
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">What is this?</div><br />
|-<br />
| style="color:#000" | '''Featured articles''' are specially selected and top-quality pages chosen by the viewers. Any day from Friday to Sunday there will be a new featured article. Please check [[Special:Allpages|here]] for the new pages as well as the older ones if you want to see what page may be featured next week!<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
Force a reload from network [shift-reload] if it doesn't work for you. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:14, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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There's something going wrong with the table on the right... --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 02:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Played around with Common.css some more, and reuploaded Asim's the banner for the News box in three parts (left, right, and a repeatable background to allow for the table to be stretched while retaining the banner). The result is in [[The PSUPedia:Sandbox#Test]]; using your code it accepts the image, but using mine it refuses to. What am I doing wrong? ;-; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 12:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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:You have to force your browser to reload the CSS from the site [shift-reload]. If that doesn't work, go [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=purge here]. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:21, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* As a sidenote, I've tried this (splitting the news banner) once. The background peeks through the left and right of the images, outside the banner :/ --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 12:27, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Something seems to have broken sitewide :( Common.css isn't working properly and the sidebar is back to its default. --[[User:Seikas2|Seikas2]] 17:54, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* How long until the featured article section will be utilized? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 23:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Yeah, I had been wondering about the sidebar as well... Quite weird really. As for the featured article stuff, I dunno. >_>; Never was my idea, and I have no clue if Asim was still going to do stuff about it. Actually, maybe I should inquire if people would like the idea at all. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:36, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Goggle Vision ==<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision1.jpg|thumb|200px|Scanning a tree.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision2.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree becomes targetable.]]<br />
[[Image:GoggleVision3.jpg|thumb|200px|Tree knocked down. Item uncovered.]]<br />
So there was a rumor circulating that the Goggle item acquired in the online story mission had more use to it than just scanning flaming flowers in "The Masked Woman" mission. I set out to bust this myth, and to my surprise its actually true. I found a tree in Parum with a glowing sphere (meaning its scannable). I scanned it, then chopped it down and received an item. :D I havent checked around anywhere other than Mad Creatures C(Found 2 so far. One in block 1 and 2.) but this may hopefully lead to new paths in missions never before ventured. Anyways, how bout we start an article on these Goggles? If anyone wants to volunteer to do it, i have screenies to support it. But i'm not very articulate to write a clear, well thought out article. ^^;; Feel free to crop and use these pictures as you will. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 01:06, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*It's not a myth ;o It's actually mentioned in story mode a few times. In story mode you get much better drops from trees though, like moon x's and scapes. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 02:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
** Also, killing trees sometimes reveals "secrets." Case in point: One of the blocks in The Mad Beasts has a tree near the riverbed, by a large rock. When you kill it, you can gain access to a cluster of boxes. I got a rare that way!<br><br>There should be some more stuff like this in Moatoob. In Story Mode I was able to knock down a fake wall once or twice by scanning the area with goggles ... I expect at least one mission will allow us to do that again.<br><br>Oh, and before I forget--*plugs JubeiSaotome's ;o-ing face with a rappy* YARHA! - [[User:F Gattaca|F Gattaca]] 09:22, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** =P Dont play story mode, at all. But thanks for the input. even more so the reason now to make a special page of its own for goggles. --[[User:Megaman|Mega]] 21:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitomi&diff=12089User talk:Kitomi2006-12-25T21:38:30Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>Cast FighGunner</div>Kitomihttp://re-psupedia.info/index.php?title=Talk:Enemy_spawn_charts&diff=12088Talk:Enemy spawn charts2006-12-25T21:37:01Z<p>Kitomi: </p>
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<div>== Rares ==<br />
Do the boss Rares have a seperate Map than the typical Rare maps? [[User:Kitomi|Kitomi]] 15:37, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
This is a little confusing to me. Can anyont make it easier to understand in laymans terms? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 21:45, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* What all is confusing? Thanks for the pictures too, that helps make it easier for people! Same with formatting. I'm new to using wiki things...<br />
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** I just got confused by the spawn listings, I was thinking they were all spawns that showed the rappies, it wasn't until a friend showed me how, then I understanded the X route is the one with the rappies. I'll continue to add pics and upate it for you. Thanks though, awesome work. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 22:32, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
*** Its something that isn't on the English version that will become very important to know, so I'm translating it over. Thanks for making it easier for english speakers to read! [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 22:34, 13 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== T-Intersection ==<br />
That T Intersection bit is a bit iffy. Think we need a picture to clarify what way the first mob of that block is located at? Possibly a gallery image set for "Main locations" within a mission that need to be noted? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 03:00, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I can take a picture...but I'm not sure how to add the picture to the server....the intersection is like a T. You go straight, but then can only go left or right, not straight anymore.<br />
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== Issues with runs ==<br />
I just did a correct run of the Left Turn Route and I had no rappies appear at all. All the flags were there. Is there any other requirements to make them appear? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 04:04, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* Are you sure block 3 was 3 delsaban and 2 pannon? B-1 and B-X are very similar, but if they are that similar, then maybe we need to add another + to block 1. [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 11:07, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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* * Pretty sure it was, but maybe I'm wrong. --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 16:39, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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I just did Valley of Carnage S with the B-X spawn pattern and didn't get any Jao. Can anyone confirm that one is correct? --[[User:Ras|Ras]] 04:37, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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For block 2 of valley of carnage, the enemies listed need to have a sword and shield icon. Also, it needs to spawn as 3 Vanda, and then 2 more, and then 2 more. All with sword and shield.<br />
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== "Train track room"? ==<br />
<br />
Can someone please clarify for me which room this phrase refers to? Is it the dead end room where the Key drops, or is it the room before that, with the platform with the barrels on it? I'm referring to the C-X spawn set, by the way.[[User:212.32.77.163|212.32.77.163]] 13:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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Train track room is the room where the key is. The other map which just has '''train tracks''' is the actual track part. So for C-X, it is the small room. [[User:Fiethron|Fiethron]] 06:39, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* Do you mean the room with the small path down onto the tracks or the T-junction's right side where it has around 3 sets of mobs spawn, which overlooks the train tracks? --[[User:JubeiSaotome|JubeiSaotome]] 06:43, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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*the room onto the tracks where the key spawns... --[[User:Dark Dajin|Dark Dajin]] 14:53, 25 December 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Amure? ==<br />
* What is the kana for this name? Given that it is suggested they appear at Valentines, wouldn't a more logical guess at the names be 'amour'? Or 'amore'? Sega liek French (see PSO EPIV) so they might like Italian too. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 12:04, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
* アムレ, ノエル, ラタン, パスカ, アクテ, ソニチ. So yeah, it's not because I'm completely illiterate or anything; I did get the references. Some company still fails at languages though! - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 15:09, 15 December 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Unsafe Passage B-X ==<br />
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So will the first spawn of block 1 only have 3 pannons and no respawns? I'm sort of confused.<br />
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-Can someone Answer this, im confused on this one also.<br />
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-Yeah B is a little unclear with the spawns. 3 of the variants start with 3 pannons.<br />
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--I spent a while doing LL runs and finally figured out the B-set of maps. B-X is annoying to identify. First, if you go into the first room and there are three pannons, you're on a good start. Kill them, more will spawn. Go to the back part of the room (around the corner but not through the door); if delsabans spawn, you have the wrong set. If it's more pannons, you are in either B-X or B-1. Unfortunately, the block two spawns are the same, so you have to go to block three. But you can skip the enemies down the right path in Block 2.<br />
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== VoC woes ==<br />
Para from HongFire.com says: I just tested the Jao C-X spawn pattern and it didn't give me a Jao.. needs more testing and another confirmation?<br />
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--Are you sure you didn't get C-1? It seems like Sega made one spawn pattern for each map almost identical to the rare spawn pattern. I've been trying to get Jaos too, and have had no luck either.<br />
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No I didn't get C-1. I counted the Vandas and they added up to the C-X spawn number.<br />
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-- I think the C-1 spawn count for block 2 might be wrong. I've never seen 3-3 spawn before, always 3-2-2, and I've never seen Jaos spawn. Also, it seems all the other block 2's that spawn with vandas first spawn 3-2-2, never 3-3.<br />
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Para: I just got another C-X spawn type with no Jao. I believe the current article on C-X is definitely incorrect and someone needs to determine the right one. It could be possible that the 3-3 Vanda Spawn in Block 2 is the real C-X?<br />
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Para: Hmm I just had a spawn today that was C-X and it had Jaggos... There must be something else that can distinguish between the two...<br />
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--If thats the case, and there *is* a 3-3 Vanda spawn in Block two of the C map set, then there are more than 3 mundane maps<br />
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+If you track the actual creature spawns, you will find that there are two different spawn sets that have a total of 7 vandas - there is the elusive 3-2-2 spawn set, and there is a 3-3-1 spawn set. The best way to tell which one you are getting is to make sure you kill all the vandas on each set at the same time. The issue is that if you don't kill them at the same time, they spawn at varying intervals making it difficult to distinguish what pattern you are getting.<br />
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**Does the A-X map work for VoC or is it broken? I finally gave up on C-X as I got the 3-2-2 spawn many times without any Jaos.<br />
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I did the C-X with the 3-2-2 spawn many times and didn't see an jaggos. My character is level 60 so 99 % of the time I killed the 3 first vanda at the same time, then two spawn and then 2 more and no Jaggo at all. I've been trying it for many days now and didn't see any jaggo with that map<br />
. If possible, I would like clarification on the C map. I see no difference in c-1 and c-x by the way, both show 3 jisharaga in the first block and then 3 vanda with sword and shield, 2 vanda with sword and shield + 2 vanda with sword and shield in block 2<br />
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* I've run all 3 x runs numerous times and yet to see a jao... is xmas time changing the appearance of these now??? -Battoh<br />
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== Jaggo Hunting ==<br />
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Are the S rank layouts for rare monsters the same as A-X? These punks keep escaping me on S. >:</div>Kitomi